Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

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Re: Lastfm Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Utestit » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:31 am


I wondered if anybody still uses Lastfm Scrobbler ?

I have installed the latests available version ( on my latest MM (, but won't get anything (nothing gets Scrobbled, the only thing you can do is turn the toolbar icon red/orange/green...).

Plus the last messages on this are pretty old, both here and on the Help - so if anybody has any clue (or substitute), you are most welcome !

Thanks !

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Peke » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:05 pm

API changed long time ago, there was some licensing issues about switching to 2.0 in Plugin so it was left on 1.2.1.

You are right Plugin will not be updated to 2.0 which is natively supported in MM5

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by MMJuno » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:24 am

Not sure when the API changed, but from the WayBack Machine cache from November 2010, it looks like album artist was available even that far back: ... ervice=443

I'm not seeing anything about the API version number here, so I can't be sure.

I'm guessing that it's unlikely this plugin would be updated to support the 2.0 version?

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Peke » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:41 pm

Yes MM plugin Uses old deprecated 1.2.1 submission protocol and you are referring to 2.0 version see

I checked 1.2.1 API and out of tags plugin sends Title, Artist, Album only no Album Artist, it is up to Last.FM to Group Album Artist.

MM5 Use v2.0 Scrobbling.

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by MMJuno » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:33 pm

So, if I am understanding correctly, you're saying you cannot submit the "Album Artist" tag using the old protocol?

If so, I'm curious how I could have ended up with scrobbles pre-2014 that have it correct as "Various Artists" but post-2014 are all "Track Artist"..?

There are a couple of plugins I rely on heavily, so I'm not sure if I am prepared to try moving to MM5 yet, unfortunately.

I just recalled that the "edit scrobble" feature is only available to subscribers on LastFM. So, you may not even be able to even see that option.

If that's the case, look at your albums and go to the last few pages. For example, I know for a fact that the "Now That's What I Call Music" series should be Album Artist = Various Artists, but I see where you have one of these albums credited to in your list (which should only be the track artist).

So, comparing Media Monkey's track properties window to the LFM API reference I see here (

MM --> LFM
Artist(s) --> artist (Required)
Title --> track (Required)
Album --> album (Optional)
Album Artist(s) --> albumArtist (Optional) <-- This is where there seems to be an issue. Is this even being sent, since it's optional?

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Peke » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:11 pm

It is how Scrobble protocol work. Plugin uses older protocol and MM5 native support is integrated with latest WEB API, which you can try.

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by MMJuno » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:20 am

To try and clarify further why this is an issue, even though "Album Artist" isn't actually displayed on LastFM in most locations:

Imagine you have a movie soundtrack "SomeMovie" with 10 tracks all by different artists. You have the album tagged as "Various Artists", but the tracks are all tagged with the individual artist (ex: Track1 - ArtistA, Track2 -ArtistB, etc.). You listen to the entire album once (10 plays total).

On LastFM, all plays for this album should all be grouped under "Various Artists", so on your Albums list you'd have "Various Artists - SomeMovie - 10 plays". If it's submitting the "Track Artist" as the "Album Artist" instead, then you end up with essentially 10 duplicate albums by 10 different artists with the same album name but only 1 track and play each (ex: "ArtistA - SomeMovie - 1 play", "ArtistB - SomeMovie - 1 play", etc.).

In other words, this really messes up the album play counts, although the artist play counts should still be ok since these go by "Track Artist".

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by MMJuno » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:38 am

That list only shows "Track Artist" though.

What do you see if you choose to edit the scrobble?

There should be both a "Track Artist" (just labeled "Artist") and an "Album Artist" in the edit pop-up. Artist should be "Neotek" while Album Artist should be "Various Artists", if it came over correctly.

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Peke » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:48 pm

Sample track is OK with me

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by MMJuno » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:27 pm

Just sent a dropbox link in PM. Thanks for looking into it!

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Peke » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:31 pm

I still can't replicate, Can you send DL link for that exact file in PM so that I can test?

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by MMJuno » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:44 pm

I don't know that I can see your "Album Artist" values. The only place I'm sure it's shown is when you Edit scrobbles (which only the account owner can do, for obvious reasons).

If this link works properly, here's an example:

On the left, is what was submitted to LastFM today. On the right, is what is in the actual tag of the MP3.

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Peke » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:04 pm

I can't replicate, check my and you will see that Artists are correctly uploaded.

New Last.FM plugin is also in MM5.

Dev Note, As there was no changes to scrobbling procedure over the years there was no need for plugin upgrade and MM5 uses newest WEB API.

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by MMJuno » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:24 am

I've been reviewing some of my submissions on the Last.FM site recently, and it seems that the Album Artist is being sent over with Track Artist instead.

For example on a "Various Artists" album, instead of Album Artist coming over as "Various Artists" like they are tagged, Last.FM is getting the individual Track Artist instead.

Is this some hidden setting somewhere I've missed? I'm not seeing anything relevant in the options pane that would seem to make it do this.

Edit: Doing some additional research, it looks like this possibly started with the last update to the plug-in back in 2014. (The Album Artist isn't something generally visible in the tracklists on the site, so I never noticed it until recently trying to edit some of my scrobbles to do some cleanup). Entries older than 2014 seem to have "Various Artists" as the album artist, but newer submissions all seem to have the Track Artist instead for all the ones I've spot-checked so far.

Re: Scrobbler [Updated 11/27/2014]

by Peke » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:54 pm

That should be current session/Total numbers