HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

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Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Peke » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:11 pm

Hi,
I have checked some of CDs listed here https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hdcd-list.65414/ please note that newer laptops do not even have CD drive and 99% of those CDs can be hound in HiRes FLAC. Those that don't and you own is possible to rip somehow and MMW can manage those files perfectly.

There are even rumors that newer drives can't even decode HDCD and Decoder as removed from chips to cut cost.

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Nigel Bennett » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:29 pm

HDCD is encoded onto standard 16Bit CDs and on replay using an HDCD decoder it can reproduce information equivalent to 20 bits maximum. I have Flac files ripped from CDs which have the HDCD enhancement however Mediamonkey cannot decode the additional information. I am happy to send a Flac encoded file to Admin or even a hardcopy CD. I have never had the need to use cloud as I see this as another potential security risk.
If Admin can give me an email address with the ability to attach a file or indeed a postal address where I can send HDCD CD I can do so?

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by jazzfreek » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:28 pm

I also have many 24 bit Flac-HD files that I am wondering about. MM plays the file, but is it decoding the 24 bits or changing it first to 16 bits. I may be mistaken, but you need a BD player to decode 24 bit files, and you can't write 24 bit FLAC-HD files to a CD. My guess is you would need a BD disc? Perhaps a DVD? I know that when I record a CD from 24 bit FLAC-HD files it works just fine, but I'm sure they are being transferred into 16 bits first. I can listen to these files on the VLC player and it decodes them just fine. I really haven't been able to find much info on what MM is actually doing to these files when I play them. Any help or corrections to my assumptions would be great!

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by feline1 » Thu May 30, 2019 2:56 pm

I realised today that I own a Roxy Music CD that is a 'HDCD' (I have owned it for years and not noticed :lol: I had to look up on wikipedia what it was!)

The one I have is this one https://www.discogs.com/Roxy-Music-Viva ... se/1422434
As you can see on Discogs, they can be bought second-hand for trivial amounts of money...

It would be cool if MediaMonkey could natively rip such CDs to 24bit FLAC :)

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Peke » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:06 pm

Hi,
You can use and cloud or file sharing service to send me Download link in PM, but MMW already support FLAC files, so I would be more interested in native HDCD file format than FLAC.

For Example Dolby Atmos in handled with third party app license on latest Win 10 versions. I wonder if similar case is with HDCD and thus need for native file.

Re: HDCD Decoding

by Nigel Bennett » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:16 am

Hi, I am interested in having HDCD playback from some FLAC files I have that are encoded with HDCD. I note that you have asked for some files from users so you can test compatibility. Have you received any yet as I have some FLAC files I can send you. If you still need please let me know where I can attach.

Thanks,

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Peke » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:54 am

Hi,
Unfortunately till now I have not ever seen and HDCD nor WAV Files Ripped from HDCDs to test and play with.

If you have one please Send me DL link in PM and I can check what can be done?

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by FlexFlexerson » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:35 pm

Not sure if there's been an update on this request at all, but I'd echo the request for HDCD decoding supporting, at least in playback for CDs and FLAC files from HDCD format. Right now I believe Foobar2000 has that functionality baked in, so sees like it should be possible for MM.

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Michael Blair » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:59 am

Add me to the list of people who would like to see HDCD functionality added.

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Peke » Sat May 06, 2017 9:15 pm

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Orbiter1 » Fri May 05, 2017 2:07 pm

Yet another advocate for inclusion of HDCD decoding. Will it ever come it is still available on plenty of CD's and we cannot use the full capability of this format.

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by progcode » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:24 pm

Just another voice requesting HDCD support.

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Orbiter » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:02 am

Another advocate of HDCD support here.
If Foobar can have the option (for free) why not MediaMonkey?

Does anyone know if it is absolutely out of the question or wether its under considertion. Microsoft no longer support HDCD so I cant believe there would be licensing fees involved, especially if the Foobar plug-in is free.
Can the Foobar plug-in be adapted for M Monkey?

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by Aff » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:40 am

HDCD would be nice. There is one good reason for that: some HDCDs use Peak Extension. If supported by the player, dynamic range is increased by 6dB and possible clipping reduced compared to a player that doesn't support it. There is indeed an audible difference if the mastering engineer used compression and (soft-)clipping for non-HDCD players.

But to be honest, there are only very few HDCDs and even fewer that really use Peak Extension (or even any other HDCD function, some are rather fake).

Re: HDCD Decoding/Ripping support

by simonbrads » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:03 am

Any sign of HDCD support yet? All I keep seeing in the new builds is "Added support for new iDevice". Surely, providing the best possible audio reproduction is MediaMonkey's core business. Support for closed-system Apple devices is a nice-to-have for a subset of all users. It should not take priority over MM's core functionality! :-?

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