Why does MM add a second date/year field to tags?

by **nohitter151** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:03 pm

negcreep80 wrote:
nohitter151 wrote: No, I know the section has to be added in and it doesn't matter where it is in the file. The only other thing I could guess is to make sure it was the right .ini file you edited.
Thanks for working with me...I guess in the several times that I reinstalled recently, I must have decided to try the regular install, so even though I've got a Portable folder in my Mediamonkey directory, you were right that I was editing the wrong .ini file. Found the local copy, edited it, and seems to work fine now. Cheers man!

Nice, that was a hail mary, love when those work out...

by **chrisjj** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:22 pm

rovingcowboy wrote:thanks for the laugh chrisjj

You're welcome RC. Keep up the great work! This forum's support remains one of MediaMonkey's best features.

by **rovingcowboy** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:38 pm

chrisjj wrote:
negcreep80 wrote: lose the attitude or don't even bother to reply...we'll both be happier.
Please forgive Roving Cowboy. One who spends so much time helping users with the hacks often needed to get MediaMonkey working properly can sometimes lose patience with users that come along expecting a program to work properly out-of-the-box.

thanks for the laugh chrisjj

by **rovingcowboy** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:36 pm

Well just asking a question is only attitude if your login name is negitive creep #80. So who's got the attitude?

by **chrisjj** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:57 am

negcreep80 wrote: lose the attitude or don't even bother to reply...we'll both be happier.

Please forgive Roving Cowboy. One who spends so much time helping users with the hacks often needed to get MediaMonkey working properly can sometimes lose patience with users that come along expecting a program to work properly out-of-the-box.

by **negcreep80** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:27 am

nohitter151 wrote: No, I know the section has to be added in and it doesn't matter where it is in the file. The only other thing I could guess is to make sure it was the right .ini file you edited.

Thanks for working with me...I guess in the several times that I reinstalled recently, I must have decided to try the regular install, so even though I've got a Portable folder in my Mediamonkey directory, you were right that I was editing the wrong .ini file. Found the local copy, edited it, and seems to work fine now. Cheers man!

rovingcowboy wrote:Whats so hard about that?

I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but do us both a favor and lose the attitude or don't even bother to reply...we'll both be happier.

by **nohitter151** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:56 pm

negcreep80 wrote:Unfortunately, no change when I tried to rewrite the tags or synchronize the track...is there a possible syntax error that I'm not familiar with when copying and pasting the [MP3Tagging] to my .ini file? As I said, I did not have that section in the standard .ini file after I reinstalled Mediamonkey. Anything else you can think of that I could change in the .ini file so that MM will talk to Mp3Tag?

No, I know the section has to be added in and it doesn't matter where it is in the file. The only other thing I could guess is to make sure it was the right .ini file you edited.

by **rovingcowboy** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:45 pm

Turn off option to update tags when song is played, turn off option to update tags if time stamp is changed. Make sure any other option for monkey to auto tag songs is off.
Select all songs at once if you have 10 gb or more of ram, use small groups of songs if less ram. After selecting songs right click one of the, then click properties.

In panel clear the one date field for original date, check box beside that now cleared date field.
Now click okay button to close properties wait for it to finish and do another group of songs,
Repeat untill finished close mm.
Whats so hard about that?

Now open in mp3tagger check to see if second date is now gone.

by **negcreep80** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:24 pm

Thanks Nohitter...it's always a big help to have your input.

Unfortunately, no change when I tried to rewrite the tags or synchronize the track...is there a possible syntax error that I'm not familiar with when copying and pasting the [MP3Tagging] to my .ini file? As I said, I did not have that section in the standard .ini file after I reinstalled Mediamonkey. Anything else you can think of that I could change in the .ini file so that MM will talk to Mp3Tag?

The truth is, I like having the option to add the Original Year field in Mediamonkey and it's a shame that Mp3Tag doesn't seem to offer that...I found this thread http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showt ... ediamonkey which seems to describe the issue perfectly, but not really how to fix it in Mediamonkey. But I was using Mp3tag as a holdover from my Itunes days, so maybe it's time to move on since I use MM almost exclusively these days.

Anyway, curious if you have any other suggestions, and appreciate your time as always.

Cheers

by **nohitter151** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:09 pm

negcreep80 wrote:Bumping this thread...I thought I had worked around this in a previous installation of MM, but since I recently had to do a clean reinstall, I've been noticing the same problem again.

To recap, I have MM vers. 4.0.7.1511 (Gold), installed in Portable mode. The issue is that when I do any editing of tags in Mediamonkey (even if it's not the Date field on Basic tab of Properties), it changes the date tag in a program like Mp3Tag to appear as year\\year.

The solution I thought worked before was to edit the mediamonkey.ini file and adding the [mp3tagging] entry to:

[MP3Tagging]
DisableFrames=TDRC;TDOR;
EnableFrames=TYER;TDAT;TORY;

Does that still hold true? It doesn't seem to work for me anymore...does that entry need to be in a particular spot in the .ini file? The default .ini file in the Portable directory did not have a [MP3tagging] section already, so I opened with Notepad and just added the above to the bottom of the .ini file and saved.

Would appreciate any updates or if I'm missing something...it's a minor annoyance, but the OC in me would love to get it fixed once and for all.

Cheers.

After you made the change, did you re-write the tags? see http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 85#p211912

by **Guest** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:41 pm

How did checking at mp3tag's developers go when you asked them to change to the 2 date system mediamonkey uses?

by **negcreep80** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:58 pm

Bumping this thread...I thought I had worked around this in a previous installation of MM, but since I recently had to do a clean reinstall, I've been noticing the same problem again.

To recap, I have MM vers. 4.0.7.1511 (Gold), installed in Portable mode. The issue is that when I do any editing of tags in Mediamonkey (even if it's not the Date field on Basic tab of Properties), it changes the date tag in a program like Mp3Tag to appear as year\\year.

The solution I thought worked before was to edit the mediamonkey.ini file and adding the [mp3tagging] entry to:

[MP3Tagging]
DisableFrames=TDRC;TDOR;
EnableFrames=TYER;TDAT;TORY;

Does that still hold true? It doesn't seem to work for me anymore...does that entry need to be in a particular spot in the .ini file? The default .ini file in the Portable directory did not have a [MP3tagging] section already, so I opened with Notepad and just added the above to the bottom of the .ini file and saved.

Would appreciate any updates or if I'm missing something...it's a minor annoyance, but the OC in me would love to get it fixed once and for all.

Cheers.

by **nohitter151** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:03 pm

chrisjj wrote:>> Also, that thread also reports that the workaround you proposed then, as now, does not work.
> I don't recall posting any alternate solution in that thread

Here's the workaround post I was referring to: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26#p153926

Yes that should solve the Year but not the Orig year issue. To solve both the workaround is:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26#p216174

by **chrisjj** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:51 pm

>> Also, that thread also reports that the workaround you proposed then, as now, does not work.
> I don't recall posting any alternate solution in that thread

Here's the workaround post I was referring to: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26#p153926

by **nohitter151** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:13 pm

chrisjj wrote:
Also, that thread also reports that the workaround you proposed then, as now, does not work.

I don't recall posting any alternate solution in that thread, though I do recall opening a new bug for this.

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