Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

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Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by MusicBringer » Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:29 pm

Aphex_Twin77 wrote:Foe example some people say Tag&Rename is a great software
Just to say, I must be one of those who think this is great software, as I've used Tag&Rename for a few years now, on my ever growing collection.
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Post by sayad » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:50 am

Aphex_Twin77 wrote:Fix Tunes (http://www.fixtunes.com) is another useful application. It's an automatic batch tagger which displays results based on % similarity to your filename and current tags. It fills artist, title, album, year, genre and cover art.

I've managed to tag some files with it that I couldn't with other applications. IMO it's not as reliable as TagRunner. It has come up with some unusual tags even when it say they are 85% similar. So you really need to check that they are properly tagged before saving them.

Fixtumes is not that much of a help now man , better softwares are on the run , like the itunes , iTunes and other programs rely on correct information in your songs to find album art. Not FixTunes. Even if your song names have misspellings or missing info, FixTune's is just the intelligent database technology that will find the matching artwork.


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Re: Re:

Post by aphex twin 77 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:34 am

sayad wrote:
Aphex_Twin77 wrote:Fix Tunes (http://www.fixtunes.com) is another useful application. It's an automatic batch tagger which displays results based on % similarity to your filename and current tags. It fills artist, title, album, year, genre and cover art.

I've managed to tag some files with it that I couldn't with other applications. IMO it's not as reliable as TagRunner. It has come up with some unusual tags even when it say they are 85% similar. So you really need to check that they are properly tagged before saving them.

Fixtumes is not that much of a help now man , better softwares are on the run , like the itunes , iTunes and other programs rely on correct information in your songs to find album art. Not FixTunes. Even if your song names have misspellings or missing info, FixTune's is just the intelligent database technology that will find the matching artwork.


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Yes as I said I don't really trust the reliability of FixTunes it's just an extra tool I use when all else fails, and it does tag a few extra tracks for me.
I have never ever used iTunes. Can it tag tracks that only have the artist and song name? Silly question but you never know with Apple; can you load tracks from your hard drive or it only tags tracks that you have downloaded from iTunes website. I assume a lot of rare/alternative tracks are missing from their database? It's a large program so and I would only install it for it tagging capabilities so I'm wondering if it i really worth downloading it.

FixTunes

Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by FixTunes » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:20 pm

Give FixTunes another shot. We'd love to hear your feedback about what you'd like to see in future versions.
Send me an email if you have any questions: kelly@fixtunes.com

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Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by Aphex_Twin77 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:40 am

FixTunes wrote:Give FixTunes another shot. We'd love to hear your feedback about what you'd like to see in future versions.
Send me an email if you have any questions: kelly@fixtunes.com
Where do I start? :P

I see you have a newer version alright. What's the major difference between the version with and without iTunes? Is the one with itunes a better tagger or does it just have itunes added as a player? I have Media monkey for that so wouldn't be interested in the iTunes version. What are the limits on the trial version?
I'll give it a try in the next few weeks but would be interested in an answer to these questions before I download it.

Rgs,

AT

FixTunes

Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by FixTunes » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:45 am

First download it from our website: http://www.fixtunes.com
We let you update 50 of your music files before you have to purchase so that you can test it out and make sure it's the right program for you.
iTunes vs non-iTunes(file-based version)

Itunes: You will use this mode if you organize and use all your music files through iTunes. Fixtunes will fix the songs in fixtunes, and since the music is already in iTunes it will work with iTunes, and automatically update the songs in iTunes automatically.

Standard(Non-iTunes): In this mode, Fixtunes works solely by itself. It will Re-organize your music and get rid of duplicates. First, You should go to the home screen, and click Edit Options. In this series of screens you will choose, where you want your music stored, How it will be organized by folder, and how each file will be named. After you do that, you go through the same process of fixing your music. Once songs are fixed, they will be placed in the designated folder. If a song is a duplicate, it will be placed in a folder named "Duplicates" in the fixtunes programs files directory.

If you want to rip new music, you can rip it wherever you'd like on your computer. Load it into Fixtunes, fixtunes will fix it, and then place it in organized folders if you choose to be in standard mode.

Keep me updated about how it's going!

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Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by sa_ill » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:41 am

I dont use no tagging software.....MM works perfect
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Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by mjw » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:54 pm

Does anyone have any other updated suggestions for cleaning up tags in a very large music collection? I'm looking for a tool that I can just set running across my whole collection and will:
a) Analyze and report on any missing, or possibly incorrect, filenames, tags and album art
b) Provide suggestions for changes to the filenames, tags and album art
c) Allow me to review the changes (as a side by side before and after view) before applying the changes

I tried a few tools suggested in this thread and here is what I found:

1) Picard
The idea of using music fingerprinting is great but the implementation makes this tool too cumbersome. There is a function to "cluster" which attempts to group tracks into albums based on your current tag data and another to "scan" which attempts to use fingerprinting. In my view, the functionality should all be integrated into one "smart scan" operation but it instead requires separate steps. The scan functionality is extremely dumb. It completely ignores any meta data you currently have and ends up suggesting 4 or 5 different potential albums for songs in your collection that clearly belong to the same album. This then wastes too much time as you try to regroup all the tracks back into one album making Picard unusable unless you are only trying to fix meta data for a couple of albums at a time..
See this thread for more info
http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1911

2) TagRunner
This really looked like it had some promise but I wonder whether it is still being developed. www.tagrunner.com seems to redirect to a website where TagRunner is not even mentioned as a product that is offered. You can still download it from some places though. TagRunner even allows you to enrich your tag data with lyrics. It allows you to set preferences regarding whether to:
a) Keep original tags
b) Overwrite original with internet
c) Merge original with internet

The weaknesses of this tool are:
- It doesn't work with M4A or M4P files
- It fails with some very common albums (e.g. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black). I suspect this is because it uses a fairly limited number of sources of info on the internet and freedb is not one of those sources.

3) Tag&Rename and mp3tag
These are both very manually intensive tools - even more manual than Picard. They might be workable on a handful of albums at a time, but not a large collection since there is little to no automation.

So the search continues. Has anyone got any other suggestions? If not, I'm going to try Tuneup Media Companion (http://www.tuneupmedia.com) next.

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Re: tagging

Post by Guest » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:59 pm

Aphex_Twin77 wrote:TagRunner http://tagrunner.com/en/tagrunner/index.html is another favorite of mine. It's a batch tagger that uses 10 different Internet sources and also search for lyrics. I set it to do an extensive search and only allow it to find data that is very similar to my files. I turn off the lyrics option as I don't need it.
Usually when I enter a set of files with just the artist name and song title it fully tags about 70% very accurately. The only errors I've seen are sometimes in the year and the cover art is from a different CD from the same artist. Also if the title is a remix it renames it as the original. I can live with this and it saves me a lot of hassle on having to check every file to make sure it is properly tagged. With a DSL connection at the start of an analysis it tags one file every 10 to 20 seconds but after about half of the tracks are tagged it slows down. When it hasn't found a tag for more than 5 minutes I usually stop it although only 70% of the tracks are tagged.

Maybe I would get more results if I let it look for tags that are less similar. Has anyone tried that and compared the results?

Thanks for the link man, thank you thank you thank you!!! your a lifesaver :D

Lonely Tagger

Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by Lonely Tagger » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:32 pm

Anyone know of a good current tagging utility? I've checked the Tagrunner link which seems to be defunct and is now a bunch of utilities that have nothing to do with MP3 tagging. I also checked fixtunes which has been bastardized into some iTunes app called tidysongs. Seriously people if I wanted to use iTunes I would just let that do my tagging for me. So I am back to square one of this post looking for a utility that will tag individual files.

Guest

Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by Guest » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:34 am

Ive been using Jaikoz quite happily it tagged most of my music, much of it with artwork and lyrics as well. If you have lots of songs you press one button. leave it overnight to let it make it changes, review them, undo anything you don't like, and then save the changes :)

Aphextwin77

Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by Aphextwin77 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:56 pm

I'm still using Jakoiz, Picard Musicbrainz and Winamp. Still haven't found anything better in the last year or so since I posted here. It's probably too expensive to develop/run an automatic batch tagger that needs to access a database(s) from third parties.

Guest

Re: Share Experience with Various Music Tagging Software

Post by Guest » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:21 pm

There hasn't been much activity on this post, but I have to add my thoughts on Jaikoz, as I have been using it over a year now.

It is the single most effective, accurate, and efficient mass tagging tool I have ever used. Bar none. And once you get used to it, it is very simple and yet very powerful.

Yes, the UI is a little complex - until you "get it" - then it's very simple, efficient, and powerful: it's one big configurable table, 1 song=1 row, with proposed changes highlighted, and you can edit ANY field in the grid (ie you don't have to select the song first, then start editing it).

The auto-tagging is both incredibly powerful and accurate, as well as completely configurable - you can tell it to use (or not use) MusicBrainz, acoutsIds, and more. You can define words and punctuation to replace, how to capitalize, and how to name files using a scriptable pattern (yes, with logic!) - with separate scripts for single artist albums vs. compilations. You can define what tasks to auto-perform, or do each one separately yourself (ie lookup acoustids, match to MB, capitalize, replace words, rename file from metadata, lookup artwork, Discogs, etc, etc - there are 26 available tasks), and in what order.

More neat tricks:
- you can copy & paste cells - no need to select the text in the cell, just right-click/copy, and paste
this includes artwork!
- you can copy one cell and paste it to MANY (ie correct the artist name on one track, then copy/paste it to all the other tracks from the same artist)
- you can do a multi-value copy: ie copy 10 cells to another 10 cells
- it highlights leading & trailing spaces, so you can easily eliminate them - all in that grid, not 1 song at a time
- you can tell it to take the album year, or the EARLIEST year for the song, as found across all compilations: I use this to tag each song with the year it was originally released - GREAT if you have lots of "Best Of" discs - I like to know when the song ORIGINALLY came out - not that this is the 23rd copy of it
- it can submit your changes

It has cleaned up my collection far better, and FAR quicker than I could have with any other combination of tools. I am truly amazed at how well it works - it determines the right album, artist, and track the VAST majority of the time. It is also the model of highly efficient UI design for experts.

Download the trial, and give it some time to learn it - it is WELL worth the TIME and the MONEY.

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