Opinions on Vista?

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Opinions on Vista?

Post by Full_Circle » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:00 am

Hi there. I was wondering if anyone here had any opinions on Windows Vista and how it compares to XP? I've been thinking of upgrading my PC for some time now, but I've heard so many bad reports about Vista, that its really been putting me off.

Also, how have people found MediaMonkey on Vista?

At first, I was considering getting an iMac instead, but from what I gather, MediaMonkey wont work on a mac, so that kinda rules that out!! (having MediaMonkey is a real deal-breaker for me).

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Post by nohitter151 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:05 am

I've got Vista and I don't see what everyone's big problem with it is. Although I generally agree that it doesn't have any huge advantages in terms of features over XP, I've never had any problems with errors and its generally been more stable for me than XP was. Of course, MM works perfectly on it for me, though I have turned off the UAC which from what I hear interferes with script and skin installation.
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Post by Michel37 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:40 am

nohitter151 wrote:I've got Vista and I don't see what everyone's big problem with it is. Although I generally agree that it doesn't have any huge advantages in terms of features over XP, I've never had any problems with errors and its generally been more stable for me than XP was. Of course, MM works perfectly on it for me, though I have turned off the UAC which from what I hear interferes with script and skin installation.
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Post by spacefish » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:34 am

Michel37 wrote:
nohitter151 wrote:I've got Vista and I don't see what everyone's big problem with it is. Although I generally agree that it doesn't have any huge advantages in terms of features over XP, I've never had any problems with errors and its generally been more stable for me than XP was. Of course, MM works perfectly on it for me, though I have turned off the UAC which from what I hear interferes with script and skin installation.
Same here :)
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Post by trixmoto » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:56 am

Me too! And some of the little features are very useful - I particularly like the dropdowns in the folder path in explorer as I find this is quick to navigate between folders without have the tree displayed on the left which I don't like. :)
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Post by Owyn » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:18 am

me NOT.

Vista adds:
- Higher base hardware requirement
- Driver problems
- Cost

I have one system still running Win$, this WXP system for applications that are only available on Win*. I have actually got to the point of appreciating testing on an old system. It makes it easier to spot performance bottlenecks.

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Post by nynaevelan » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:00 pm

I too am running Vista successfully. I had a little trouble in the beginning with the way M$ controls the security in Vista, but once I got the hang of it I haven't had any problems. Although it has alot more cosmetic features, I like some of the enhanced security and browsing features. But like many others, I am running with UAC turned off. That is the one pet peeve I have with Vista. M$ seems to have created Vista with the computer-illiterate in mind, it doesn't cater to the user who has a basic or advanced understanding of computer applications.

But also due the cost of upgrading for hardware and software, both my husband's and my son's computers are still running XP. So I still get the best of both worlds. 8)

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Post by Teknojnky » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:35 pm

I'm running vista x64 at home, but xp on my laptop.

I still prefer xp, even with vista UAC disabled. I'll switch back to xp 64 eventually when I'm not lazy.

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Post by rovingcowboy » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:45 pm

Owyn wrote:me NOT.

Vista adds:
- Higher base hardware requirement
- Driver problems
- Cost

I have one system still running Win$, this WXP system for applications that are only available on Win*. I have actually got to the point of appreciating testing on an old system. It makes it easier to spot performance bottlenecks.

My other systems are Mac & Linux.

PS: Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy(Hardier) Heron due out 24 April.
PPS: Win XP SP3 due 29 April.

agreed with you on this.

and i am sure the developers would add to it saying the vista code causes headaches and nightmares trying to link it and winxp and win9x systems in one program. i know one programmer that stopped trying to upgrade his program because of the way vista code works.

but i ain't buying the crap when the xp goes on the bargin bin it will be bought by lots of people.

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Post by Peke » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:07 pm

I have bought two more XP Pro licenses in past few months, and I'm still thinking should I buy my first Vista Home Premium License.

BTW I have high-end PC so Vista is not problem. One reason is bothering me Vista AERO??? for what it is used for ??? I haven't changed my background in 10 years and do not plan to do anytime soon.
Actually I lie about that. I have changed it but each time I change it new one lasts for not more than two days when I start to miss my stars back. The second thing is that I have too much additional hardware which is still not supported in Vista or will never be supported. Maybe when I buy new 26" Monitor. I have also licenses for third party Apps so I do not see Vista as all-in-one solution nor I have ever seen Windows as standalone solution.

Anyway, Home premium looks nice, but Only in Ultimate i can disable all that I want to disable on Vista to get it work like I want.
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Post by Deadman36g » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:24 am

I have had no problems with MediaMonkey, but IMO I do recommend disabling UAC (If you must have it make sure you run Monkey with Admin privileges)
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Post by nohitter151 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:58 am

Owyn wrote:me NOT.

Vista adds:
- Higher base hardware requirement
Any OS upgrade would require better hardware. It was the same with the upgrade from 2000/ME to XP.
Owyn wrote:- Driver problems
Perhaps at first, but with SP1 many of these issues have been fixed. If you're buying a new computer with Vista preloaded, you're sure to be unaffected here.
Owyn wrote:- Cost
Again, the same with any upgrade of OS (obviously excluding any free operating systems).
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Post by ArtnerC » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:27 pm

nohitter151 wrote:
Owyn wrote:me NOT.

Vista adds:
- Higher base hardware requirement
Any OS upgrade would require better hardware. It was the same with the upgrade from 2000/ME to XP.
Owyn wrote:- Driver problems
Perhaps at first, but with SP1 many of these issues have been fixed. If you're buying a new computer with Vista preloaded, you're sure to be unaffected here.
Owyn wrote:- Cost
Again, the same with any upgrade of OS (obviously excluding any free operating systems).
Thank you! So many people complain and shout their opinions on Vista based on no actual first-hand knowledge or old, views (on windows in general) that only held true in the 90's. I LOVE that vista uses lots of ram... that's why I have it, to be used. SP1 Has made some major improvements to memory management, UAC, driver issues, etc. MS was even forced to release a report which showed nVidia Drivers as the largest source of Vista instability (dont remember exactly but was like 41% of all vista crashes were nVidia related).

I have worked on projects using Visual Studio 2005/2008 on a Vista 64, Vista 32 and XP 32 machines and had absolutely 0 problems when I went from one to the other on the same project. The only problem I can see on developing for Vista is the people not using VS 2008 writing apps that would require Admin Access, on comps with UAC enabled. Even then, you can just use the "Run as Admin" option on the app.

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Post by Kilmatead » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:31 am

ArtnerC wrote:So many people complain and shout their opinions on Vista based on no actual first-hand knowledge or old views (on windows in general) that only held true in the 90's.
Curiously, Microsoft recognizing that people are in the main superficial, seemed to have relied upon Aero (and other visual tweaks) to convert the masses. There are very good reasons why Vista rewrote the Sound Stack for instance (and not just to bring down Creative as a reputable company - thank you Daniel K), but most people will never understand this, or other "under the bonnet" changes so they simply conclude "Oh, it's the same as XP, just prettier, but doesn't work too well."

Backwards compatibility is a serious (if necessary) evil. If you're going to require "Higher base hardware requirements" anyway, then just go all the way and leave XP to live on via virtualization tech, and get on with the proper rebuilding, such as x64, concurrency (a headache 20 years ago) et al.

My 2 cents.

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Re: Opinions on Vista?

Post by Guest » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:54 am

Absolute garbage. Bloated, slow, and unpredictable.

It's great if you want to spend your time playing with sliding buttons and menus and watching stylized cursors twirl, though.

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