Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by LunaC » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:52 am

Just installed this cool script and it saves a lot of time working on my files.
I was wondering if you could add the "ok-list" feature to other folders as well? It would be very helpful because right now all categories are full with stuff that is actually ok.
I can work around it with "playlist" feature but the ok-list would be much better.

I also have one problem in the "tracks with..." I have unchecked the last 3 options (about playdate/history) but it is still showing them in the navigation tree.

Greetings and thanks again for this cool script!

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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by terrypin » Fri May 15, 2015 8:13 am

Just starting to use this script, beginning with Multiple Dates. I've studied the first post but I'm afraid I'm none the wiser about the criteria on which these tracks are selected? IOW, what are the inconsistencies between? In my Entire Library of about 7700 tracks it reports 142. But for many of them in Properties, I can see either no dates or just one.

Is there any Help on this, or perhaps some of the posts within these 65 pages?
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by terrypin » Fri May 15, 2015 11:50 am

Now also trying Tracks With... > Title Starts with Dubious Character

What is 'dubious' about most of those in this example please?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/401 ... Char-1.jpg
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by LunaC » Fri May 15, 2015 3:47 pm

Hi terrypin,
I'm just another user of this script so I'm just guessing here.
I'm pretty sure that the ' is one of the dubious characters as well as , . " `´ probably even & or ß (german letter). This feature is still valuable to me because sometimes files with those special characters can cause problems in other programs, systems, players. Probably only in old ones like the ones I have :lol: but I still think it's nice to find them all at once.
Sometimes these special characters appear from downloading, renaming with a programm or just typos so this section is mostly to check if all the dubious characters are actually ok.
I also think that one letter words like "I" are counted as dubious characters (german doesn't have any word that is just consisting of one letter so in this case it would actually be dubious). Maybe even words with just 2 letters(otherwise I can't explain why "Back home again in indiana" is on your list)

The easiest solution for you is to add those characters to the ok list. You find it by right-clicking on "tracks with..." and then choosing "track node settings" doesn't seem to need a divider...

To give you help on the "multiple dates" feature please tell me on which section you are (tracks, albums....) and if you view the properties in media monkey or anywhere else. Can't promise to find an answer but be happy to try.

Greetings, Luna

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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by LunaC » Fri May 15, 2015 3:52 pm

I just had an idea, if you have "albums with..." "multiple dates" and you have an album called e.g. White Noise then it lists like 12 tracks. Some of the tracks have 2014 others 2013 and the rest has no date. All of these files still count as "multiple dates" because they are on the same album and it searches for every album where not all tracks have the same date.
Hope you understand what I mean with it.

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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by terrypin » Fri May 15, 2015 4:08 pm

Thanks both, appreciate your suggestions.

However, re Dubious Characters, I'm not challenging the minority of the entries but the majority. All those with a normal capital letter at the start of the title. Why are they in the list?
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by LunaC » Fri May 15, 2015 4:22 pm

terrypin wrote:However, re Dubious Characters, I'm not challenging the minority of the entries but the majority. All those with a normal capital letter at the start of the title. Why are they in the list?
I think that the author named that one wrong and it isn't only the titles starting with a dubious character but every doubious character found in the title.
Taking this in account all from the screenshot you provided except "Jingle Bells" and "Back home again in indiana" would work with what I said in my previous post. I could also imaging that there is a spacing too much, you might wanna check that.
But if it is really only about the starting of a title I'm absolutely clueless.
terrypin wrote:And re Multiple Dates, I don't see why albums are relevant in this case. The script says these are tracks with dubious characters at the start - and that's clearly not true.
I saw this as a completely different question. I just chose albums as one example to go through. You asked this question before the one with the screenshot. And I only saw the "multiple dates" category in albums in my library so I went through that.

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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by MMFrLife » Fri May 15, 2015 4:34 pm

On the dubious character ones that look normal, in-line edit a couple to see if they start with an "empty space character".
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by terrypin » Fri May 15, 2015 4:43 pm

I scrambled my copy/paste in my last para about Multiple Dates, sorry! (I've deleted that now.)

I'll take another look at this in the morning. I suspect it's my misunderstanding about the purpose of this script. At the moment I just don't understand what 'inconsistency' the author means. It needs a few practical examples IMO.
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by MMFrLife » Fri May 15, 2015 4:45 pm

Also, I'm not certain of this, but candidates for Multiple dates might include "Date, Original Date and Last Played" There is also Date Added and Timestamp.
It seems odd that the last two would be included as they are typically a given for most files.
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by MMFrLife » Fri May 15, 2015 4:47 pm

terrypin wrote:I scrambled my copy/paste in my last para about Multiple Dates, sorry! (I've deleted that now.)

I'll take another look at this in the morning. I suspect it's my misunderstanding about the purpose of this script. At the moment I just don't understand what 'inconsistency' the author means. It needs a few practical examples IMO.
Did you see the my post about the Dubious Characters?
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by terrypin » Fri May 15, 2015 4:54 pm

MMFrLife wrote:On the dubious character ones that look normal, in-line edit a couple to see if they start with an "empty space character".
I'll scrutinise again in the morning (this comes from iPad) but I looked very closely for that and all text seemed tightly left justified, no spaces.
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by terrypin » Fri May 15, 2015 4:59 pm

MMFrLife wrote:Also, I'm not certain of this, but candidates for Multiple dates might include "Date, Original Date and Last Played" There is also Date Added and Timestamp.
It seems odd that the last two would be included as they are typically a given for most files.
It seems we're all guessing - not good! Hopefully the author will be along to define the criteria and explain what is inconsistent with what.
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by nohitter151 » Sat May 16, 2015 11:27 am

terrypin wrote:
MMFrLife wrote:Also, I'm not certain of this, but candidates for Multiple dates might include "Date, Original Date and Last Played" There is also Date Added and Timestamp.
It seems odd that the last two would be included as they are typically a given for most files.
It seems we're all guessing - not good! Hopefully the author will be along to define the criteria and explain what is inconsistent with what.
It's almost certainly that these tracks start with a space... look a few nodes down from "Title starts with Dubious character"... you'll see the node "Leading or trailing spaces in text field" which has 12 tracks in it.
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Re: Tagging Inconsistencies 4.0.1 (2014-02-27)

Post by terrypin » Sat May 16, 2015 1:02 pm

Your quote is from MMFrLife's other post, and my reply, about the date issue. I assume you meant to quote this:
MMFrLife wrote:On the dubious character ones that look normal, in-line edit a couple to see if they start with an "empty space character".
terrypin wrote: I'll scrutinise again in the morning (this comes from iPad) but I looked very closely for that and all text seemed tightly left justified, no spaces.
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nohitter151 wrote:
It's almost certainly that these tracks start with a space... look a few nodes down from "Title starts with Dubious character"... you'll see the node "Leading or trailing spaces in text field" which has 12 tracks in it.
Nope. I did check again and confirmed that all text was left justified, with no leading spaces. And you can actually see that in my earlier screenshot anyway.

I then fiddled around for a while and also ran Duplicate Content which (after a long time) gave a zero result - whatever that means. On closing and restarting MM and re-displaying Title Starts with Dubious Character today, the earlier contradiction has now disappeared: all the 15 entries are now obviously 'dubious':

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/401 ... Char-2.jpg

Out of curiosity I also looked at the six Leading or Trailing Spaces in Text field. All are trailing, not leading, and I'm sure that would have been the case in the previous exercise.

So that earlier glitch or whatever remains a mystery!
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