Multimedia Tree Cathegories

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gamb2009
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Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by gamb2009 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:09 pm

Actually, in compilation 5.0.0.2058, you can create a new item of the multimedia tree like, for example "Jazz", adding the selection criteria "Genre contains Jazz" . But then, you can not add in cathegory "Music" a new complementary criteria to filter out Jazz like "Genre doesen't contains Jazz", because it defaults to "contains". It happens with all three negative conditions (doesn't contain, doesn't equal and doesn't starts with). It would be nice to have the chance of also adding a new type creteria specific for Jazz. This because, as with Classical Music, the grouping criteria is special for that type of music: In classical you would group preferably by composer, with all sub-cathegories ordered in a subordinated way, whereas in Jazz you would be thinking of a specific interpreter.
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by MMFrLife » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:37 pm

Can you state/confirm what you are doing in the following format, like if I use,

1. Using quantifier "all"
2. Property: genre, Condition: doesn't contain, Value: Jazz
It works to do that one thing.
But you want to add something with "Property: type, Condition: equals, Value: music" to that?
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by gamb2009 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:14 pm

My purpose was, once succesfully creted a new group in the tree named Jazz (which works correctly), I wanted to remove the jazz tracks form the original group "Music". So I added a new criteria to the existing "Music" group to filter out the jazz tracks from other kind of popular music, as I have now a new cathegory for it. So, if a add to "Music" in the quantifier all "Genre > doesn't contain > Jazz", and then hit Ok to the dialog box, when I come back to it, I get "Genre > contain > Jazz". i.e. the opposit.
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by Ludek » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:48 am

I cannot replicate, for me it works as expected, is this what you have meant? :

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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by gamb2009 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:40 pm

Sorry if I have not explained myself correctly (probably is my bad English)... or maybe something wrong with my computer.

I have done the following:
a) I have succesfully created a new Cathegory Named Jazz, adding a fliter criteria: "Genre > contains > Jazz". Works great! Now I have three cathegories in my tree: Music, Classical Music and Jazz.
b) Actually, the Jazz cathegory only have tracks that matches the genre Jazz. But the original cathegory Music have both popular tacks AND Jazz tracks, mixing the two.
c) Now, I want to exclude the Jazz tracks in the default collection "Music", in order to have in it ONLY the general popular music (i.e. other genres), excluding Jazz and Classical Tracks.
d) I edit the cathegory "Music", adding a new selection criteria to the existing one: "Genre > doesn't contain > Jazz". Hit OK in the dialog box.
e) It doesn't work. Why? If I open again the dialog box for checking and reediting "Music" cathegory, the newly added criteria is there, but it has changed to "Genre > CONTAIN > Jazz.

Hope you could replicate the problem.
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by MMFrLife » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:24 pm

Ok, I understand now. I'll test later.
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by MMFrLife » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:02 pm

I'll have to delay testing as I am running into a major error problem myself when trying to do so.
I'll have to send a debug in over the next 24 hours.

For anyone else wanting to test above issue:

Default
coll. name - "Music"
Type; is; Music, Classical Music, etc.

What to create/edit
coll. name - "Jazz" (create custom)
Genre; contains; Jazz

coll. name - "Music" (edit default coll. by adding)
Genre; doesn't contain; Jazz

> press "OK"
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See if it works to exclude "Jazz".
Either way, open "Music" back up to see if Condition changed from doesn't contain to contains
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by PetrCBR » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:31 am

There will be some major issues in collections fixed in next release.

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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:25 pm

I, too, have a collection named jazz. But personally, I find it useful to have a category - Music - that contains everything in my library (I deleted the Type <> Classical Music that is in the default criteria). To that end I created a collection called Other Music with the criteria Genre <> Jazz and Type <> Classical Music. I then have 4 collections/types:

Classical Music
Jazz
Other Music (everything not Jazz or Classical Music)
Music (everything)

Music is especially useful when trying to find a new set of tracks when the genre/type might be missing.

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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by MMFrLife » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:48 pm

gamb2009,
It appears to be working correctly with latest .2060.
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by gamb2009 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:08 pm

Sorry, but is not working in 2060. You still can not use the negative selectors ("doesn't equal", "doesn't contain" or "doesn't start with"). All of them default to "contains".
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by MMFrLife » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:17 pm

Interesting, it works here. Win7 64.
You may want to submit a ticket, or another if you did while using 2058.
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by gamb2009 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:21 pm

Im using Windows 10 Pro (Insider Preview built 14986). I will submit a ticket.
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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by jwhitworth » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:28 pm

Works on my Windows 10 Pro system.

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Re: Multimedia Tree Cathegories

Post by Peke » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:54 pm

Hi,
Same here on 2060 and Win 10 Pro x64.
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