Running MM under Mac OS X with Wineskin

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Wesselius

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by Wesselius » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:11 pm

Hey Mark,

Awesome that you're doing all your best to get MM to work on OS X. Like Zoe I'm a newbe when it comes to emulating Windows applications. Could you provide us with a n00b-proof tutorial of how to exactly get MM to work in Wineskin or is that a lot of trouble? Or perhaps upload a ready-to-go package we can use? I (and many others i think) would really really appreciate that :) Thanks for an answer, I really miss MM since I got my macbook.

Regards

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Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:45 am

MM4 beta releases are published here (they're coming out nearly daily now) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... start=9999
d_itunes4.dll is published here http://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brows ... or-itunes/

Sorry but a full Wineskin guide will have to wait until I have some quiet time. In practice it's the same order as the POM instructions (you don't need the portable choice though). I suspect most of your problems are the Wineskin app itself though - take a look at the forums and try some bits out. It really isn't that difficult. See below for a few notes.

I'm running MM4 build 1414 under Wine 1.3.24 via Wineskin 2.3 on a Mackbook Air with OSX Lion 10.7. There are later versions of Wine and Wineskin now.

* Obtain WineSkin's Winery from http://wineskin.doh123.com/tiki-index.p ... =Downloads and Install (The Winery is the central location from which all the bits of program are downloaded and updated)
* Run Winery and update the Wineskin Wrapper (this will download). This can create your new MM4.app folder with the embedded Wine bits.
* Add a new Wine Engine (this will download). This is a precompiled Wine build for Mac.
* Click "Create New Blank Wrapper" and name it MM4. This can take quite some time. Download the Gecko installation when prompted.
* Note that your new MM4.app will be at /Users/dad/Applications/Wineskin/MM4. Click "Open folder in Finder"
* Doubleclick click the MM4 app to open Wineskin and Click "Advanced"
* Click "Tools" and then "Winetricks"
* Choose "IE6" off the drop-down list and click "Run". This will download (slowly) and install.
* Double click the MM4 app and Click "Install windows software"
* Navigate to your MM4 installation exe file.
* Follow the normal MM installation. Habitually I don't run in skinned mode, I find that it runs faster. Deselect "Run MediaMonkey now" at the end.
* Choose the "MediaMonkey (non skinned).exe" off the provided list
* Quit
* Double click the MM4 app folder to launch MM4. This can take quite a while to run the first time.

There are some good examples in section 6 here http://wineskin.doh123.com/tiki-index.p ... +Neverball
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

markstuartwalker
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Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:15 am

Of course running MediaMonkey under Wineskin means you can run 2 copies quite independently.

This is a Macbook Air running OS X Lion with MediaMonkey 3 and 4 ...
Image
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?5cazy9qwqkdi9p3
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

mbjb

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by mbjb » Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:26 am

Thanks mark,
I followed your instructions exactly and was able to get MM working to the point it could install and add music to the library but could not play it. I reread your previous posts and found out I needed the MAD plugin. Now, I dont know much about bash, so instead I simply went on my PC, installed the mmip through media monkey, then grabbed the in_mad.dll and the two ini's and brought them over to my mac and put them in the corresponding folder inside the .app after that, i simply renamed the f_ape and the f_mpc. and now mediamonkey can play music!
And considering most ppl who are trying to get MM on a mac have most likely used MM on a PC, this workaround is useful to those who dont have wine, winepath, or dont understand how to create bash scripts. Now I can finally use MM instead of...itunes....

mbjb

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by mbjb » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:08 am

Unfortunately, I spoke to soon. While playing songs, the player randomly fast forwards then stops, then jumps forward again, and plays and so forth. Sometimes MM just freezes after doing this for awhile. And my files are not corrupted. :( In your previous post u said to delete f_mpe, i only found a f_mpc. perhaps thats the cause?

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Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:16 pm

To be honest I'm unsure. From recollection I've had experiences both ways i.e. deleting some select plugins and not deleting any - they both seemed to work.

The MAD plugin needs to be installed via it's EXE as there are some registry updates too. I suspect that these are necessary.

There is an MMIP for the MAD Plugin too that might be easier to use http://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brows ... ut-plugin/
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

Guest

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by Guest » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:05 pm

I'm not quite sure how to open the mmip, I tried opening it with the app, but that didnt work. and i dont understand your post on the bash script. are there any other ways to get the mmip to work?

mbjb

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by mbjb » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:06 pm

Guest wrote:I'm not quite sure how to open the mmip, I tried opening it with the app, but that didnt work. and i dont understand your post on the bash script. are there any other ways to get the mmip to work?
^oh sry thats me :D forgot to put a name

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Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:36 am

The installation of MMIP files continues to be a challenge for Wine users. My Ubuntu workaround is messy to say the least. The Wineskin mechanisms don't seem to work at all even though they are based on the same Wine code.

I've tried to get a simple addition done to MM but it's going nowhere http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =6&t=56639

Edit: here is some very good news http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=8091
Last edited by markstuartwalker on Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

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Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:52 am

I'm having problems getting build 1422 to run under Wineskin. I'd be surprised if the developers have done something major at this phase of testing so I think that I'm doing something silly.

Can anyone else get build 1422 to work under Wine 1.3.26?
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

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Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:15 am

Looks like someone else has tried build 1415 for Linux.

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... &iId=24148
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

mbjb

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by mbjb » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:58 pm

I tried installin 4.0.0.1423 with Wine 1.3.26. No luck, i only get the system tray

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Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:46 am

Looks like 1424 fixes things ... http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =6&t=60125

With the new "Add" button for extensions then the MAD plugin is very easy to install. The latest version can be found at ... http://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brows ... ut-plugin/
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

markstuartwalker
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Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:10 am

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by markstuartwalker » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:58 am

Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507

doh123

Re: Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine

Post by doh123 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:37 am

I'd suggest sticking at Wine 1.3.24 or below right now. Above is almost totally using mmdevapi which is very problematic still with the Wine CoreAudio driver for Mac OS X.

Wineskin wrappers are also made to share... not everyone has to reproduce everything if one person sets up a zipped version to share so others can just download and run it.

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