Mediamonkey alternative

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by theta_wave » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:19 am

KorkyKat wrote:Unless I am mistaken Monkey - as I have stated before - is the only media player that allows you to scan CD's without downloading the tracks and retains the information.
There are plenty of other mediaplayers out there that can do this well enough: foobar2000k, videolan, hell even microsoft media player.
KorkyKat wrote:You can then export the information to excel or whatever you like and even convert to a pdf or html. Very useful for insurance purposes and for sticking on a mobile device like a phone or hand held so that when you go shopping you don't buy any duplicates.
I agree that mediamonkey is the one player that allows users to do this relatively easily.
KorkyKat wrote: I've yet to try out 4.0 I like 3.0 and even used 2.0 today to restore all my lost files.

And finally: the folks on here have been great not just with the artwork of which many have spent countless hours designing but also the help and assistance.
Version 3.x is quite possibly my favorite music manager of all time. You might change your tune when you install the latest 4.x and experience its bugs first hand; also, it will give you the proper frame of reference to those who are less than pleased with the transition. In my experience, the transition from 2.x to 3.x wasn't as disconcerting. I guess changing database backends is not as nearly as drastic as adding support for other media files, streaming options, etc.
KorkyKat wrote: I can't wait for a decent Windows tablet - Windows 8.0 That's when the cheeky Monkey will come in to its own.

:D
I hope Microsoft heard the chorus of cries from angry GNOME users when GNOME abandoned the traditional desktop experience to one that is based purely on tablet use patterns.
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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by tinana » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:38 pm

Version 3.x is quite possibly my favorite music manager of all time
Yes, I agree, to the point that I'm thinking I'd like to downgrade from MM4 to 3.
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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by windcrest77 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:21 pm

theta_wave wrote:
KorkyKat wrote:Unless I am mistaken Monkey - as I have stated before - is the only media player that allows you to scan CD's without downloading the tracks and retains the information.
There are plenty of other mediaplayers out there that can do this well enough: foobar2000k, videolan, hell even microsoft media player.
KorkyKat wrote:You can then export the information to excel or whatever you like and even convert to a pdf or html. Very useful for insurance purposes and for sticking on a mobile device like a phone or hand held so that when you go shopping you don't buy any duplicates.
I agree that mediamonkey is the one player that allows users to do this relatively easily.
KorkyKat wrote: I've yet to try out 4.0 I like 3.0 and even used 2.0 today to restore all my lost files.

And finally: the folks on here have been great not just with the artwork of which many have spent countless hours designing but also the help and assistance.
Version 3.x is quite possibly my favorite music manager of all time. You might change your tune when you install the latest 4.x and experience its bugs first hand; also, it will give you the proper frame of reference to those who are less than pleased with the transition. In my experience, the transition from 2.x to 3.x wasn't as disconcerting. I guess changing database backends is not as nearly as drastic as adding support for other media files, streaming options, etc.
KorkyKat wrote: I can't wait for a decent Windows tablet - Windows 8.0 That's when the cheeky Monkey will come in to its own.

:D
I hope Microsoft heard the chorus of cries from angry GNOME users when GNOME abandoned the traditional desktop experience to one that is based purely on tablet use patterns.

Microsoft did hear that and Windows 8 can operate in both a touch centric mode or in the usual mouse/keyboard mode. They cant throw out the whole corporate and non-corporate user base that likes to use a mouse and the millions of applications in use in every industry that uses a keyboard.

I saw some demos and it is pretty slick, but devlopers will have to learn HTML5 to get the latest "look" and touch behaviors. Also devices must live up to a certain standard for touch gestures to even be supported, Microsoft is reqiring even higher standards from tablet hardware than Android. For example a device must do secure boot and support a minimum of i think 7 gestures. But old "windows forms" and WPF and Silverlight developers can keep going on those api's too. MM4 appears to be a "windows forms" application, I dont think it uses WPF but I could be wrong. The move to HTML5 for non-web user interface development is huge leap though for Win 8. This coincided with IE9 having tied HTML5 directly to the DirectX rendering engine as well as IE9 optimizing the javascript interpreter directly to Intel/AMD machine language. It will be fast, real fast. I'm no expert but I do like to read up on how/why/where MSFT is coming out with a new OS.

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by wakeuptheworld » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:35 pm

Why has media monkey stopped being compatible to win7 64 bit

I have tried the correct download and even tried adding no splash that someone had posted.

I do not like my tunes as they require a separate file of your music, that has the habit of removing files at will.

I want MM back

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by Lowlander » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:59 pm

MediaMonkey is compatible with Windows 7. What problem do you run into?
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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by Zriordanchary » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:12 am

I don't think there is an alternative to this.

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by MrSinatra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:36 am

I think windows 8 SUCKS.

MM otoh, is great. so is winamp and foobar. props to the people running MM to not just summarily delete a thread that attacks in a mostly unconstructive way.

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by Dagnabulous » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:37 pm

windcrest77 wrote:
Onweerwolf wrote:
rctechy4 wrote:iTunes vs MM - not even close.
MM actually manages the music the way you like it, iTunes kinds dictates what u can do.
With MM u kow you own the songs with iTunes looks like the songs are loaned to u.
In MM u can manually add lyrics, album art, auto playlist etc - u need to use it to appreciate it.
You can do all of this with iTunes as well.

In fact iTunes can do most of what MM can do that isn't part of the scripted add ons.

The big difference is that with large libraries iTunes becomes unusable while MM has no problem with those.
So what you are saying is that Itunes CAN play FLAC, APE, WavePak, etc. files out of the box at full bit rates? I have FLAC files ripped from LP's that are well over 6000 kbps due to the high sampling rate I used to rip the LP at 24 bits wide and 192kHz (raga turntable --> ortofon cartridge --> Musical Fidelity RIAA preamp --> RME ADI-2 D/A converter --> Computer AES/EBU (true 24 bit) input --> Audacity --> Hard Drive --> EAC --> FLAC). Does Itunes downgrade these rates? Hope not because they sound better than any CD and as good as the turntable. I'm not being rhetorical, just wondering if Itunes can perform at an audiophile level on a Windows machine. Also will it handle over 200,000 tracks of lossless files? For video can Itunes play VOB and FLV? I am not very familiar with Itunes but would like to get better informed.


Since no one addressed this, I will. iTunes can't play any of those files "out of the box". You can use it to convert FLAC to iTunes lossless, but it won't play them till you do, and then you're dealing with conversion which will cause some lost fidelity. Don't know if there's an option to convert the other two, since I don't use them, but I know that iTunes will not play them outright. For reference about what iTunes WILL play see the link below.

http://support.apple.com/kb/ta44475

But there's no contest between MM and iTunes. MM wins hands down. There are two reasons I still interact with iTunes: To add smart playlists for use with my iPod, and because my wife has an iPhone but is mostly computer illiterate. Hopefully MM will add smart playlists, but my 2nd problem can't be helped unfortunately.

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by MrSinatra » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:58 pm

I had FLACs, but I converted them all to ALAC so they would be more universal.

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by nohitter151 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:57 am

MrSinatra wrote:I had FLACs, but I converted them all to ALAC so they would be more universal.
I'd say that's up to debate, FLAC is becoming a much more popular format lately and is probably more "universal" than ALAC.
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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by MrSinatra » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:47 pm

until FLAC works with istuff, I don't think there is much debate, given istuffs marketshare.

ALAC meanwhile works with everything I use, and I have yet to find someone who has trouble using my ALACs for themselves.

nothing against FLAC, and I'm no apple fan, but FLAC isn't as universal by a longshot.

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by nohitter151 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:51 pm

MrSinatra wrote:until FLAC works with istuff, I don't think there is much debate, given istuffs marketshare.

ALAC meanwhile works with everything I use, and I have yet to find someone who has trouble using my ALACs for themselves.

nothing against FLAC, and I'm no apple fan, but FLAC isn't as universal by a longshot.
Given that Android is almost 52% of the marketshare, while iOS is only about 41%*, and Android supports FLAC out of the box (& not ALAC), I'd still be inclined to disagree.

*Source: http://www.latinopost.com/articles/3016 ... proves.htm
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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by MrSinatra » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:51 pm

if the market were only android and ios, I might agree. but its not. iTunes, ihardware, macs, etc...

and any android can get a free download to do ALAC, whereas FLACs a much bigger PITA with istuff.

the fact is its a lot easier to get ALAC playing somewhere than FLAC in most cases.

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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by nohitter151 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:10 pm

MrSinatra wrote:if the market were only android and ios, I might agree. but its not. iTunes, ihardware, macs, etc...

and any android can get a free download to do ALAC, whereas FLACs a much bigger PITA with istuff.

the fact is its a lot easier to get ALAC playing somewhere than FLAC in most cases.
I'd lean towards most iTunes users being more 'casual' music listeners and not going for the audiophile-quality tracks. Macs and other ihardware are hardly commonplace (OSX accounting for less than 8% of all PC usage, Apple TV is hardly popular, even iPod use is fading with the rise of smart phones). Lastly, it's quite easy to purchase digital FLAC files (HDtracks, Bandcamp, eMusic, 7digital, many labels, etc.) where as ALAC downloads are not available from iTunes.
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Re: Mediamonkey alternative

Post by MrSinatra » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:14 pm

u can believe whatever u like, but I was speaking to my own files, and it is much easier for me to get them to work most anywhere IF they are ALAC.

I used FLAC for years, and switched to ALAC only b/c that was the easiest, most "universal" way to get them into my friends eco-systems who were based on istuff, without presenting any kind of meaningful downside to me.

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