New iPod "Classic" Compatibility

monkeyman · Post by **monkeyman** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:41 pm

I am getting a Classic too. Please help get this code working. Thanks!

guest · Post by **guest** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:44 pm

I'm forced to use iTunes right now. I'd also appreciate any updates about this issue.....

Santiago

monkeyman · Post by **monkeyman** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:51 pm

All of us have definitely been Monkeyed by Apple.

Sigh...

dmode101 · Post by **dmode101** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:34 pm

I can also confirm that the new Ipods do not sync with MM. I have an Ipod Classic 160gig and I am forced to use Itunes right now......sucks. Please update MM soon.

monkeyman · Post by **monkeyman** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:28 pm

Tested with the same results on the 3G NAno too. Sigh

mpThree · Post by **mpThree** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:04 pm

jiri wrote:I don't have either of these new generation iPods for testing (and won't have for at least a week). ...
Thanks,
Jiri

See Article on iPodMinusiTunes.

monkeyman · Post by **monkeyman** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:17 pm

Sigh... I guess we really have to deal with iTunes piece of crap.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:33 pm

Patience young ones. It will come, and surely you can tolerate iTunes for this short time.

Santiago · Post by **Santiago** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:01 pm

Guest wrote:Patience young ones. It will come, and surely you can tolerate iTunes for this short time.

*sigh*

I hate patience....

i just hate itunes more.......

Santiago

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:04 pm

Apple locked third party vendors from the ipod. Something about itunes and DB MD5 hashes not matching up. I actually just put an article in the news section about it. Sad day.

monkeyman · Post by **monkeyman** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:30 am

Let's see if the capable MM team is able to crack it. I hope it works as I am making do with iTunes for now.

metalewd · Post by **metalewd** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:53 am

Spazz wrote:Apple locked third party vendors from the ipod. Something about itunes and DB MD5 hashes not matching up. I actually just put an article in the news section about it. Sad day.

If I had known that I woulda waited...I'd never really used iTunes before now and man, does it blow chunks or what?! It just does....well...nothing!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:51 am

metalewd wrote:
Spazz wrote:Apple locked third party vendors from the ipod. Something about itunes and DB MD5 hashes not matching up. I actually just put an article in the news section about it. Sad day.
If I had known that I woulda waited...I'd never really used iTunes before now and man, does it blow chunks or what?! It just does....well...nothing!

Welcome to the club

Michael Vogel · Post by **Michael Vogel** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:05 pm

Found a table of the database header...

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MHBD header:0x00   4  mhbd0x04   4  header size = 0xBC       (changed)0x08   4  filesize0x0C   4  unknown = 10x10   4  version number = 0x19    (changed)0x14   4  child count    = 0x05    (changed)0x18   8  itunes databaseid0x20   2  unknown = 20x22   2  unknown = 0x0263         (changed, 0x0000 before)0x24   8  ipod identification?     (changed)0x2C   4  zero padding0x30   2  unknown = 10x32  20  unknown, changing completely from itdb to itdb0x46   2  language, seen: de, en0x48   8  library persistent id0x50   4  unknown, seen: 1, 50x54   4  unknown, seen: 0x08, 0x0D, 0x1D, 0x4D, 0x8D0x58  20  unknown some similarities between versions0x6C   4  timezone offset in seconds. +2*60*60 -> 0x00001C20, -4*60*60 = 0xFFFFC7C0 (really?)0x70  76  zero padding 0x00000000

http://ipodminusitunes.blogspot.com/200 ... s-off.html

Maybe this can help...

Michael

TwiztidSinz · Post by **TwiztidSinz** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:43 pm

Knowing what the data is doesn't really help as much as we'd all like.

0x32 20 unknown, changing completely from itdb to itdb
0x58 20 unknown some similarities between versions

0x32 is most likely a SHA1 hash, and 0x58 also could be.

is the just the location of the lock, not the key that unlocks it.
To allow other programs outside of iTunes to write to the database properly they'd need to crack the SHA-1 hash

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SHA1("The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog") 
  = 2fd4e1c6 7a2d28fc ed849ee1 bb76e739 1b93eb12
SHA1("The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy cog") 
  = de9f2c7f d25e1b3a fad3e85a 0bd17d9b 100db4b3

See how much changing 1 letter effects the whole of the hash?

I have a feeling that this will be 'fixed' soon enough though.

New iPod "Classic" Compatibility

What mp3 player do you use?