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MMA on de-Googled devices
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 4:57 pm
by CosmicKnowledge
Hello. As you know, Google has gone full and insanely 1984, just like Apple and Microsoft. I have completely moved away from Windows and moved to Linux and a de-Googled phone. I will, can never, go back. In case people haven't noticed, laws are being changed worldwide to enable an authoritarian regime to control every aspect of our lives through surveillance and focused enforcement. Look no further than the UK to see what I mean. They are stopping end-to-end encryption by requiring back doors. Google has used their control of Android to add a layer that abstracts hardware, allowing custom surveillance hardware to be integrated into Android at a much deeper level where it cannot be controlled, much like the latest iPhones now have surveillance hardware that we cannot control.
If I purchased Media Monkey Android, how do I get the Pro version on a de-Googled phone that has no "Google Play Store"? The Aurora store lets me download but Play Services are needed to authorize the DRM to unlock the Pro version. Obviously, this can never happen or else it turns my de-Googled device into a Googled device. That would be totally self defeating.
Surely there must be a way to get the Pro version I paid for on a de-Googled phone?? Activation key like the Windows version? Activation file? Activation that does not involve Google (or other big-tech)?
Re: MMA on de-Googled devices
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 11:06 am
by rusty
Hi,
Since Amazon eliminated it's store from non-Amazon devices, we no longer have a means of selling MMA Pro to non-Amazon devices that aren't running the Google Play store. As I've written elsewhere, this is largely because afaik there's currently no trusted store with a significant user base that supports product sales.
With the recent ruling in favor of Epic vs Android, this will probably change in the near future and they'll have the resources to create and market a secure platform with payment processing. I haven't looked into their platform at all, but from your perspective (i.e. as someone that is very privacy-conscious) would it be suitable?
-Rusty
Re: MMA on de-Googled devices
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 1:13 pm
by CosmicKnowledge
rusty wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 11:06 am
Hi,
Since Amazon eliminated it's store from non-Amazon devices, we no longer have a means of selling MMA Pro to non-Amazon devices that aren't running the Google Play store. As I've written elsewhere, this is largely because afaik there's currently no trusted store with a significant user base that supports product sales.
With the recent ruling in favor of Epic vs Android, this will probably change in the near future and they'll have the resources to create and market a secure platform with payment processing. I haven't looked into their platform at all, but from your perspective (i.e. as someone that is very privacy-conscious) would it be suitable?
-Rusty
Why do you need to use a product store? Just set up a store in Wordpress or something quick like that, take payment, issue a serial number or some other built-in 'activation' scheme. This model has been used since the first days of the Internet and it works very well. MM Windows does this. I just bought some Linux software that uses a software key which gets "activated" from their central server. BTW, I already bought a license of MMA, I just can't use it.
Regarding Amazon, I won't use them. They are just as bad as Apple, Google, Microsoft, Adobe, etc.
Anywhere to get non google play services version of app
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:33 pm
by DieHardDan
Now that amazon has shutdown access to the amazon app store for android users, is there any way to get the non google play services version of the android app for de-googled phone users?
Re: Anywhere to get non google play services version of app
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:12 pm
by Peke
Hi,
Not yet, but we are working on solution for that.
Re: Anywhere to get non google play services version of app
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:16 pm
by DieHardDan
Great thanks
Re: Anywhere to get non google play services version of app
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:05 am
by Friedrich
Peke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:12 pm
Not yet, but we are working on solution for that.
That is great to hear. I was just stumbling on this problem.. .
Re: Anywhere to get non google play services version of app
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:14 pm
by Peke
Friedrich wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:05 am
Peke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:12 pm
Not yet, but we are working on solution for that.
That is great to hear. I was just stumbling on this problem.. .
It can take some time to find real good solution.