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Re: Song Startup Delay

by dtsig » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:54 pm

From Win10 file explorer .. dclick on a track and mm starts right up and plays the song. While song is playing i right-click and play next another track. When the first song completed the second track came right on. It plays it right away after the last track but still there is about 30 seconds from the time that I "play next" until it shows up in the list.

From PowerDesk (Pro 9.3) my preferred filemanager ... dclick takes no time to start but adding a track MM takes about 30 seconds for it to show up in MM 'now playing' display. It plays it right away after the last track but still there is about 30 seconds from the time that I "play next" until it shows up in the list.

Odd that it is so consistent in the amount of time ..

Re: Song Startup Delay

by Requ1em » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:16 pm

I have the same problem - also on an ASUS computer but on Windows 10 and it is EXTREMELY annoying to wait 30 seconds until the next song has loaded (starting from the explorer). I can't find an official answer to this problem, although I read that more than just a few users seem to have this problem. So could somebody please tell how to fix this?

@acm24: do you have the same problem that files which were recorded by audiorecorder in windows xp or 7 are played with an echo?

Re: Song Startup Delay

by acm24 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:47 pm

I can confirm this is a widely occurring issue. It doesn't always happen but I run an Asus gaming laptop with a samsung 850 pro 1 tb hd. It's a software problem. It might be exclusive to win 8.1, it's hard to say. But i've experienced this on multiple pc's running win 8.1 over the course of 18+ months.

There have been times when I thought it maybe had something to do with the location I was trying to launch the songs from explorer, maybe there were too many loose files in that folder. It's usually either my download folder or straight from the desktop, but after seeing that others have had the same problem idk. You can see media recognize that you're trying to launch a new song a lot of times, it will pull up and just sit there for 30 seconds to a minute before playing the song. I hope someone more knowledgeable finds a fix for this.

Re: Song Startup Delay

by Lowlander » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:25 pm

timrh wrote:The reason I do it from Explorer rather than MM is that I have songs I don't particularly want to make part of my library, cos I am just listening to it one time.
You can use the My Computer mode for that.

Re: Song Startup Delay

by timrh » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:11 pm

I'm glad I am not the only one. With MM open, double click from Explorer takes ages to play the song. Launching from within MM is immediate. The reason I do it from Explorer rather than MM is that I have songs I don't particularly want to make part of my library, cos I am just listening to it one time. I agree that it seems to have appeared after upgrading to Win 8.

Re: Song Startup Delay

by MMFrLife » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:27 am

GzyOnline wrote:i have over 3TB of music, i have mastered the organization of my files & folders in windows explorer and MM simply just can't accomplish that task.. a quick example: i have all my new/incoming albums sorted by date, and when i try to browse this collection in MM, it just list them by alphabetical order in the Media Tree,
Can you write out an example of how you name a date sorted folder in explorer and how MM writes it out when sorting to the tree?
GzyOnline wrote:not to mention i have all of the screen to view my folders versus the very limited space in MM.. and I want to browse them by folder, not by each mp3 file
I know what you are saying and it isn't the same thing, but you can view through folders in MM (in MM's "my computer", sort on path column from MC or library, library's "location
node")

Re: Song Startup Delay

by imagehopper » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:49 am

you are mistaken to say mediamonkey can not handle your setup.
monkey has the ability to handle your set up you just need to turn on the user friendly masks in the option of mm then set up the path you want in the text line of the auto organizer and monkey will put the songs in the order you set up if that is not enough then the add on script of magic nodes has added tons of ways to set up the pathways. this is what mm is better at then any other program. you just need to learn what monkey wants you to do in order to set it up the same way.

Re: Song Startup Delay

by GzyOnline » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:06 am

dtsig wrote:This is not an answer to your question and to my thinking the problem is a combination of win8 and ... In win7 if mmw is open it will start playing almost instantaneous when dclick a file in explorer as it should.

But I have to ask, you say even after hours of MM this still happens when you double click on explorer. Why would you be using explorer instead of MMW to look at your music files? It sounds like you are just using mmw to just play your tracks. No biggs .. just curious
I'm short of all convinced it's a win8 issue.. when win8 first came out, there was a lot of issues w/ MM, specifically with rights/permissions/etc.. if MM was opened 'as administrator, windows explorer would have to be opened 'as administrator' as well, which isn't the easiest task to do...

but to address your question, i have over 3TB of music, i have mastered the organization of my files & folders in windows explorer and MM simply just can't accomplish that task.. a quick example: i have all my new/incoming albums sorted by date, and when i try to browse this collection in MM, it just list them by alphabetical order in the Media Tree, not to mention i have all of the screen to view my folders versus the very limited space in MM.. and I want to browse them by folder, not by each mp3 file

Re: Song Startup Delay

by rovingcowboy » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:12 am

Old information of mine above. I now have win 7 4 core. 8 gb ram songs on separate hd. No lag time i use free mm 4 and it plays as soon as i click the play button. But I'm wondering that I get this speed on win 7 because I still use mm in real-time priority.

Re: Song Startup Delay

by dtsig » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:17 am

This is not an answer to your question and to my thinking the problem is a combination of win8 and ... In win7 if mmw is open it will start playing almost instantaneous when dclick a file in explorer as it should.

But I have to ask, you say even after hours of MM this still happens when you double click on explorer. Why would you be using explorer instead of MMW to look at your music files? It sounds like you are just using mmw to just play your tracks. No biggs .. just curious

Re: Song Startup Delay

by GzyOnline » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:08 am

aalphons1 wrote:Whenever I double click on a song in windows explorer, MM begins immediately, but the song takes 17 seconds to start. I've tried most suggestions on this forum without success. If I select a song within MM application it begins instantly. I don't have this issue with other media players.
Using Win7 x64 with Phenom quad cpu, 4gb ram. Help!
oh good, i thought i was the ONLY one having this bug/lag/delay issue, however the posting date of this topic leads me to believe that my issue is completely separate from the OP's..

very very long time user of MM here, since Winamp glory days.. I only notice the lag/delay issue after I installed Win8, and now Win8.1 (after many years of suffering, I'm thinking my last resolution is to quit w/Win8.1 and revert back to Win7 [yes, just for MM] and see if my problem ceases).. suffering with this bug over the past years, I'm inclined to lean towards the side that this may be the long standing Run As Admin/permissions issue that MM has been suffering from in Win8.. idk? it's been a VERY LONG time since I've updated my MM (or it seems like!?),

current MM version: 4.5.1718
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit | 8 GB RAM | Custom-Built Intel Core 2 Duo

Any ideas? Has a resolution to this issue been introduced in some updates that I'm behind on?
THANKS!!!

edit: and just to be clear it's not just during initial opening of MM (to eliminate the start-up library monitoring reasoning), it's even many hours after MM has been open.. simply using the mouse double.click.to.open method in Windows Explorer to begin playing a media file results in a marginal delay before playback begins.. one temporary and longstanding solution I have discovered is that if the file is dragged from Windows Explorer to MM Now Playing frame, playback begins immediately.

Re: Song Startup Delay

by rovingcowboy » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:40 am

i don't have a fast win 7 computer with a quad core and mediamonkey on it.
but this xp computer with a dual core is fast. :)
and it does the same thing to me on this one it makes me start monkey first then the song or it won't play the song,
even though the songs are on the same hd here on this computer.

the jukebox of mine is only a single core amd. but it is only runing mediamonkey and very few things like timers on windows so there is no clutter being held in ram to slow it up. so when giving it a command its faster then this one is
because this is running tons of things to stay online and all the blocking software needed for safe surfing.

their error could be something simple like their av program is scanning the file that caused monkey to start up? :o

so i really doubt the 17 seconds is caused by monkey but a debug report like lowlander asked for should find the error.

8)

Re: Song Startup Delay

by Dreadlau » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:29 pm

@rc
If I open a song from windows explorer.
MM opens and plays the song.

It seems to me that this is the expected behavior.
I suspect there is some issue with MM on your setup.

For the lag. Sure it's not supposed to be instant.
But the original poster has a fast computer and 17 seconds is abnormal.

Re: Song Startup Delay

by rovingcowboy » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:41 pm

Dreadlau you telling me that mm 3 has been having this trouble since day one of mm 3 and it is not normal?
because its been in need of starting mm prior to starting the playback of any song for as long as i can remember.
maybe even back to mm 2.4.

if it was an issue back then, why was it not tracked as bug way back then.?

i've had to start my jukebox playing songs only after i have had mediamonkey up and waiting to play songs for at least one minute. no matter if i start songs from in the explorer or with the task scheduler or start the playlist from task scheduler
and my jukebox uses mm 3.1304 i just tried to open both again at the same time and monkey opens but the song does not play. there is no other reason for it then monkey did not have the time needed to see the play command or the file to play or both because monkey was trying to load, now remember of course i've got all songs on other harddrives. so there is a little lag time on that.
which i don't know if the first poster has other hds now or not but that could also be the cause of monkey not seeing the song when he is started.

of course that lag time statement might just answered why i have to do that and have had to for a long time., man ranting like that and i make the statment to make me stop ranting? i did it again. :roll:

Re: Song Startup Delay

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:15 pm

A debug log send to support might be helpful: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=7

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