Barry4679 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:32 am

Stigg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:25 am I don't know much about Google Play Music, but am I correct in saying that it only supports lossy formats?

AFAIK it transcodes anything that you upload to 320kps .mp3

So not the best as your only offsite backup for any lossless files. But (last time I looked):

* they will store, and allow you to stream from, up 50,000 of your own tracks at no charge ... so you stream from, or sync to your device, any tracks from your collection, at any location
* they also have family subscriptions at reasonable rate ... up to five individuals ... they have 30+ million music tracks, and which seems to cover a lot of bases
* a subscription also includes YouTube Red, which allows background listening, and you can also download videos, and GPM tracks, for offline use ... each person can fill up to 5 mobile devices each
* I have read the any track which you upload that is less than 320kps, gets replaced with a shiny new one at 320kps, provided that they have it amongst their 30+ million tracks

* and last, but not least ... the big one ... drum roll ... it is nicely integrated into MM5 ... the native GPM client s/w is basic, and horrible

Secondly, when it tried to sync with the GPM playlists, it barfed! I have sent logs a couple of times, from earlier this evening, so hopefully you'll get some info.

I also captured the following:

Stigg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:25 am I don't know much about Google Play Music, but am I correct in saying that it only supports lossy formats?

Corneloues wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:32 pm New laptop, New install of MM5 and a first chance to really test GPM integration. I was able to sync with my existing library and it has done a very very good job of matching with my MM library. Only 1 file I can find that has been matched to Google's own library.

First thing I don't understand is how I correct them. Barry has talked about it before I know.

• Find the track in both MM5 and the GPM client ... compare their track property pages ... https://www.dropbox.com/s/owfcvjy472cha ... s.png?dl=0 ... it can one of many things ... you can see that those two tracks have capitalisation differences in the track name ... that is NOT the reason ... MM5 can handle that ok, and trailing blanks, and other small differences ... in the case illustrated, if you look at the GPM list on the left, you can see that the tracks are duplicated in my GPM library, so MM5 has successfully matched one copy, and the other remains unmatched

• FIX by retagging in either GPM or MM ... or in this case by deleting the track duplicates from the GPM library ... and then rerun the sync

• or fix by deleting the album from the GPM library, and use MM to upload a replacement copy to your GPM library

• if you can't see the reason for the mismatch you could post a side by side image here

Corneloues wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:32 pm Secondly, when it tried to sync with the GPM playlists, it barfed! I have sent logs a couple of times, from earlier this evening, so hopefully you'll get some info.

• white screen problems ... debug log links PM'd to you

• some matching problems introduced by this version

• some Column Browser weirdness

• funnel filter not working well with the Source col

Ludek wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:15 am OK, but isn't that adding the additional sub-options that you requested (and we implemented) as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=14983
actually makes the things even more complicated and harder to understand?

• skins selection is not part of Tools|Options|Appearance

• the sync action is not visible in the top level of the right click menu, like the "download" action is ... instead it is down in the 2nd level of the SendTo option

• toggle logging to status bar has no menu option, and is invoked what is usually a "pause" action

• MM5 UI has controls situated in many different places; the main menu, the Media Tree, the modal tool bar, and the right click menu ... ie. if I were looking for how to authenticate MM to my GPM account, I probably would not expect that I have to gain access to this via the "Media Tree"

Barry4679 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:18 pm removal of the GPM specific download location from the RemoteContent tab of Devices&Services>GPM was intentional?

Not saying that removal is necessarily a bad thing ... and I did query it function in relation to Default Download Loaction at Tools|Options|Downloads.

But the other side of this POV, is that the MM UI and all its options settings, is probably the most complex app that your average music fan interacts with.

I have spent quite a lot of time with MM4, and now MM5, but still quite often get frustrated as I try to find things.

It would be a user experience service to at least display the default download location on RemoteContent tab of Devices&Services>GPM.
And allowing for a service_specific location override was an OK idea, especially if was labelled as being an override.

Could you also check 'str ' vs 'str ' ... ie. it looked like these two indentical strings were failing comparison ... ie. maybe trailing blank suppression on one side of the comparison only?

Ludek wrote: ↑Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:12 am You seem to be right: matching 'str' with 'str ' fails, so trailing space really is an issue, thx, will be fixed in 2136

Barry4679 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:39 am I now have have only 165 unmatched from my 43,000+ tracks uploaded by the Google Music Manager

If a track in the MM4 db has a trailing blank in the album tag, it is uploaded to MM5 db with the trailing blank, and is uploaded to GPM with the trailing blank ... but MM5 cannot tag match these tracks during tag sync GPM -> MM ... it looks like you may be stripping trailing blanks from one side of the comparison, but not the other.

Devices&Services>GPM does not protect unsaved config changes
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ie. make some changes, and then exit the window w/o press Apply ... MM5 does not warn that there are unsaved changes. .. can this be fixed?