Hi,

I'm experiencing the same issue.
I use MediaMonkey 2.5.5.998 to synchronize audio files to my iPod (5.5G, Video that is). Since MM can't synchronize video files, I use iTunes to do that.
But everytime I synch some videos, iTunes starts mis-interpreting the volume leveling tags. After that, when you enable soundcheck on your iPod (read: enable volume leveling), most tracks are inaudible (-100% volume leveling) or way too loud (+100%).

I have searched some more on the net, and it seems that not only MediaMonkey tags are interpreted incorrectly.

1) The only work-around is to disable soundcheck on your iPod, so the volume leveling tags aren't interpreted by the iPod.
2) Another workaround would be to use MediaMonkey to synchronize videos to your iPod (c;
3) Yet another workaround would be to disable iTunes' gapless filter which messes up the volume leveling tags the first time.


As you can imagine, my vote goes to solution number two (c;

charlieMOGUL

Anyone any closer to fixing this bug?

Its driving me mad. All I want to do is use Monkey for music sync and iTunes for video sync but the volume levelling bug means I can't do it. Some tracks are inaudible, others too loud.

anealm wrote:I haven't been to the site but just figured out if you select all from edit menu while in music on ipod and right click a file and get info, click options folder then volume adjustment and set the slider to none this fixes all files.
Well, I'll know more about fixes next week at work listening to it all day

Yes that works but then MediaMonkey wants to resync every song the next time Auto-Synchronize is used because it recognizes them as changed. I'm using that method now, but I can't auto-sync without erasing every song.

I haven't been to the site but just figured out if you select all from edit menu while in music on ipod and right click a file and get info, click options folder then volume adjustment and set the slider to none this fixes all files.
Well, I'll know more about fixes next week at work listening to it all day

there is a new site just came up last week? or monday?

called something like murke.com? it is an online itunes traning site it tells all the little ins and outs of how to use ipod and itunes.

maybe you can pick something up from them to try and see if it fixes this?

do a google for online itunes lesson or help.

OK, I need to find some other means of getting podcast's on my ipod besides Itunes. Rebuilding the ipod's database doesn't work for me and neither does stopping gapless playback the instant Itunes starts to determine gapless playback after adding podcast. Both of these times I had to delete everything from my 5th gen ipod and resync with MM. Gapless playback only works with both 5th gen ipods and iPod nano (Second Generation).
Gapless playback is automatic in Itunes and can't be turned off.
I really don't see what gapless playback has to do with the problem. The way MM levels tracks plus or minus would seem to me to be the more logical reason for Itunes setting tracks to -100 , 0 or +100. If I could find a site that tells me whats changed in Itunes versions I'd try the one without gapless playback.
Whats the best way to go about pinpointing the problem?

i been reading this rusty, and from what i see in the monkeys setting of the sound level after it analyizes the songs..

i think this is what is going on.

they analyize the songs in monkey.

monkey sets the levels. some to + or - levels if the songs need it.

but it also sets some to - 0.0 or +0.0 these settings might be read in itunes as 0 so itunes sets it volume slider to 0.

that is the only thing i can see that might be causing it.




soulition i think would be for somebody to write a script that works on ipod
and tells the ipod to see those to zero settings as 89.0 and not zero.

Haven't replicated this myself, but from the thread it seems that the problem is caused when using iTunes and MM at the same time (iTunes new gapless playback analysis seems to mess with the tags).

So wouldn't the solution be to not synch with iTunes? Or does the problem occur simply by running iTunes (even if you don't synch music with it)?

-Rusty

I'm haveing the same problem with Itunes gapless playback after analyzeing and leveling tracks with MM. I also noticed alot of album art accociated with wrong files and podcast mixed with songs, I'm sure thats me messing up somehow though and syncing/fixing songs with MM deletes all my podcast.
Podcast and videos are to easy with Itunes. I hope they fix it soon. There sure is enough views on this thread. Apple probably did it on purpose.
Btw.. I'm using 2.5.4.978 of MM. Are any of you using the newest MM and haveing volume problems?
Thank You MM for this great, free software. I just wish I didn't feel the need for Itunes.

I'm experiencing this same problem. After I transferred all of my songs to my iPod with MM, some songs were incredibly quiet. I looked in iTunes and the "Volume Adjustment" slider was turned all the way down. However, I can't change this because when I do the next time I auto-synchronize MediaMonkey wants to resync all of my songs because it recognizes them as changed.

Thanks for any help. This is a really annoying bug and not sure if the problem is related to iTunes or MediaMonkey. Oh yeah, all of my files have volume analysis info in them but it used to work fine.

Hi.I own a first generation ipod with scrool wheel.Lately my ipod has been turning itself all the way down after a minute or two.I check the the volume indicator when this happens and it's all the way down and the battery is almost full charged so I know it's not the headphones.Anyone..thanks ,Peter

I figured out that when I Tunes updates the files for gapless playback it messes up the volume leveling set up in MM.
I put 2 albums with volume leveling and 2 without. After transfering a video file via Itunes it starts the gapless update. THe albums with volume leveling had tracks that where way to low, the albums without volume leveling where untouched.
When I did this process again I hit the X before gapless updating started, both albums where untouched. Has anyone else notice this in ITunes?
I only want to use Itunes for video and photo transfer since Anapod will not answer my emails and it is not working.
Also, how can I stop Itunes from automatically running the scan for gapless playback.
I am so happy with MM (sound check works great) but Itunes really messing things up. I have no music files in the Itunes library.

xtra

This just happened to me. I volume leveled a playlist on my Ipod and random tracks had no volume. I restored my Ipod via Itunes (was forced to download it) and lost all my music to start from scratch.
What does it mean when you analyze volume on the Ipod(not in the music library) and Ipod appears in the media column? These songs where shaded in the library.

Hpoe this is a MM bug.

xtra

I recently had the same problem as riziko. For unrelated reasons, I need to erase my ipod and restore all of the tracks using MM. Afterwards, some of the songs were much too loud or much too soft when playing on the ipod. By browsing the files on the ipod using itunes, I noticed that the volume adjustment slider for each of these files was set to something other than zero.

Interestingly, after I fixed the volume adjustment slider in iTunes, MM would recongize these songs as being changed and would re-sync the songs to the ipod. After re-sync, the volume adjustment in itunes was screwed up again.

In about 80% of the files that had this problem, there were duplicate "year" tags (no idea how this happened). I removed the duplicates using mp3tag, and now these file sync correctly to the ipod (i.e., the volume adjustment slider is at 0). I assume that when MM syncs with an ipod, it reads the file information either from the id3 tags or the MM database and then generates the appropriate entries in the ipod database. Is it possible that MM mistakenly alters the "volume adjustment" entry in the ipod database when it encounters odd tags? I've looked at the itunesdb file, and the changes to the volume adjustment entry seem fairly deliberate (e.g., many involve changing each byte in the 4-byte word from 0x00 to something else).

I think I have fixed most of my files, but I will see if I can reproduce the above by generating a file with two "year" tags.

BTW, I'm using 2.5.4.978.

Hope this is helpful.

i had a similar issue on my ipod photo a few days ago.

after syncing with the latest beta all the volume adjustment was gone
on the ipod (not the MM database).

so some songs were too loud, some too silent, although the volume
leveling is turned on on the ipod.

but after rebuilding the ipod's database everything was ok again.