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Re: Home Theatre Display

by Peke » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:25 pm

Just tested on Win 7 x64 using ATi Remote Wonder (also tested with Remote Wonder II and Remote Wonder+) and as they are Radio receivers No Issues.

Also I tested using Cyberlink Remote and few other IR Remotes connected on 5m USB extension Cable (With 1 -> 4 self powered USB hub) Without problems. It is just matter of Ideas.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by olekristian75 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:39 am

A skin for this would really be appreciated

Re: Home Theatre Display

by moonglow » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:38 pm

It seems like xbmc would do what you want, except that it doesnt use your MM library ...

What I'm really hanging out for is a way to sync play info from the media monkey and xbmc library - I don't really care which one is the umm master library I guess, although it'd be nice if they just mirrored changes - but it would let me synch my ipod into MM, track playcounts from xmbx ... and have a much more accurate capture of my play/listening habits....

in fact I want to walk into my house and have my computer go 'hey dude, you look like you've been enjoying that kiwi dub you've been listening to, I'll start it playing on the stereo, but I'll mix in a little prog house after dinner, cause it's a friday and I know you'll want to start getting amped before you head out....'

XBMC is fine on the projector, itouch can control it with the xbmc app from any room in the house, or you can use the xbox remote in the main room ...

Seems a shame xbmc and mm don't work together too well at the moment, they're both the ultimate music platforms designed from different needs, but together could compliment for an awesome system from music management to great display and interface....

Re: Home Theatre Display

by sourceminer » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:54 pm

I have been trying to find the correct post for this, and I think as I have tested most of the Media Center Apps.

Microsoft's MCE is the most polished solution and VERY easy system to use (ask the wife). We have been using MCE since 2004 Version came out. I too now have MCE7.0 and its very cool, but yet again I am forced to use WMP, and its a resource HOG, However I have found that its really the one true app for MCE as everything is integrated. The problem that you will have with Monkey using a scripts based system is going to be the Lack of the Extender support.. like My Movies for MCE, you cant watch Ripped DVD's and certain file formats (mostly MSFT of course) are only supported, furthermore any mapped drives etc, you start to run into other issues. (MS Extenders really suck) However XBMC is the next best thing for extending from the MCE you loose Live TV. Mostly this is ok by me to gain PHP scripting and playing of Movies etc.

I propose that we have a auto update function from Media Monkey to WMP DB and back when your playing and rating songs in WMP.
Like http://jrmwillis.googlepages.com/ (music Bridge). You will gain functionality as its already tied into WMC.

My 2 cents.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by GMGJ » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:18 am

My HTPC is in a closet. I can't see it from where I sit and watch TV and listen to music. The idea is to have it on a screen that you can see from 10 feet away. I could get one of the new net notebooks and run a wireless remote desktop connection, but that's a $400 to $500 solution. I appreciate the interest in helping so please keep the suggestions coming!

On the HTPC in a closet thing. When you do that, you don't have to be overly concerned with noise. I have a quite HTPC, but I had to nothing special to make it that way. I had my processor fan go bad on me, it made a huge racket until I got around to replacing it. But, I heard nothing in the room the HTPC serves.

I really like the monkey. We have an exercise bike in another room and we listen to playlists and watch visualizations while we work out. When I want to do maintenance on my audio library or add music to one of our portable players, I use the regular monitor interface.

Today's thinking is to create a new page for the MCE, lets say. MMaudio. MMaudio starts the Monkey and when monkey starts up it runs a script that pulls data to create a Music explorer tree on an MCE page. The MCE page picks this up and displays it. From MCE you select something to play and that in turn runs another script that tells the monkey to play it. If you integrate monkey toys into this all of a sudden you have stop start skip etc all built in.

From what I have read so far, the show a list and display it (scrolling lists) is pretty slow with the MCE interface. See posts in http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... fault.mspx.

Another option would be having a script generate just select parts of the Music Tree and display them in a much larger font. Make the Tree more page oriented. First page show you highest branch of the tree. When you select say either playlists or albums, it opens up a new page to display things.

Anything that lets me select and play music while sitting 10 to 12 feet away works for me. In my case, I can set a browser or the Monkey to be visible from that distance. Its just a strain to see it. Those of us with less than perfect vision, its not workable.

That are lots of ways to do this kind of thing. When you think about it, the work that was done to display things on small portable devices is applicable to this problem. its a problem of sizing things to the screen so that its visible under the operating conditions .

Re: Home Theatre Display

by Peke » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:18 pm

Above mentioned integrated Screen is clone of original OEM Screen.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by Lowlander » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:10 pm

Using an case with integrated screen or a small USB Monitor also seem nice solutions. Both can come in touchscreen variants.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by MediaMan » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:07 pm

What I need is a display mode that can be seen from 10 feet away and use a wireless mouse or pointing device to control the basic music functions (play, pause, stop, etc).
To me, the solution here is simple and does not require a TV. Seriously. Use iMonkey and an iTouch. Meets the requirement for remote control of basic music functiions on a disaply that can be seen at all times....the iTouch display.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by GMGJ » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:33 pm

I would like some sort of monkey / mce play capability.

I have just downloaded the Windows 7 media center sdk from here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows ... fault.aspx.

I am going to investigate building an MCE page that works with MM and MM scripts.

I hope I can get a a script developer interested in working with me. I do not want to learn VB at this point. Its always more complicate than it seems!

The first idea is to pull a list of playlists from the monkey. Display the list of playlists and select a playlist in MCE and then kicking off a monkey script play it.

There was a program called MC Menu Minder that worked on Vista that made this sort of thing easy. The old version I had did not start on Windows 7 but I am going to look into this.

I use a remote connection to do most of my work on my HTPC. What I want to do is help build a MCE page(s) that lets us use the monkey to play things from our HTPCs sitting 10 feet away.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by Guest » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:31 am

I have the same issues on my 70 inch Sony because I am maybe 18-20 feet away. I increased the font to extra large and I have very good eyes so i can see it but whenever i have friends over they can't see the library very well from the couch. Nobody can DJ a party like that...
Also the song title needs to be bigger but the gey glided skin has the best font size for the song title. There is certainly a need for a "big screen" display mode perhaps like the iTV set up when a song is playing as I have not dared to mess around with WMC. Would also be nice to be able to automatically cycle through your pictures while the song title remains in the bottom corner, but alas I am probably talking about MM 6 or 7...
One other thing, can we get a larger search box? I work in the search business and the small search box is killing me when you have to type in a long band name or long song name and you can't even see your entry query to see if you spelled it correctly.
Love MM otherwise.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by Peke » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:04 pm

First I would like to ask few questions?

What WMC interface to support:
- Windows MCE
- Windows Vista
- Windows 7
- HTPC Windows XP based on manufacturers choice (ATi, nVidia, SoundGraph, Cyberlink, Microsoft, Apple, Logitech, ...)

Additionally each of them uses own application/GUI for communicating with hardware and most of them do not supply any API/SDK to work with?

Re: Home Theatre Display

by jammastercd » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:59 pm

Reading through this thread there appears to be a number of options for creating a 10' capability of MM. I would personally like to see MM available via the Windows Media Center interface, which could also be accessed via media extenders. I understand that it would be technically different than My Movies, but a similar overall experience would be wonderful. The current MM desktop application would continue to be used for managing my music collection, but there would be a plug-in interface used while in WMC.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by bvocal » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:07 am

I would bet that this is one very often asked for feature.
I would like to add my thoughts...
Media Monkey is the best media database system around, and is starting to get props from mainstream writers, so just maybe, I hope, it will really take off.... So that makes it a natural for some sort of evolution to the HTPC realm, as that is the natural place to use it, esp if you happen to have a high-end audio rig with your theater.
So, support for pristine audio [which it already has, in an inconvenient way for switching audio codecs...], either getting every software builder on earth to include MM in their list of supported players for control/remote/media keys... or being able to mask itself as winamp... a new interface for when 'minimizing' that is built for being viewed/driven from the couch... and what I think would be super great, and I am sure I read here that the dev's will not do, is video support, then you may as well go ahead and built a whole shell for HTPC that you can switch to and from...
After doing that it seems the natural next step is world domination.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by Lowlander » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:25 am

You might want to check out the free Meedio(s). Also make sure you check out the plugins for the various HTPC software's as they often provide better music management than the build in solution. I actually think that a plugin could be developed for it that uses the MediaMonkey database as both applications use SQLite as database. I personally still use MediaMonkey on the HTPC, but I just playback auto-playlists so lack of readability is not so much an issue.
You can also look into remotely controlling your HTPC. There is an iPhone application to do so and you can also remote control your HTPC. I know that nothing beats a HTPC MediaMonkey interface, but this request has been a long standing one and I don't if the developers will do anything on this soon. In any case for HTPC purposes something that can use the MediaMonkey database and auto-playlists would be sufficient.

Re: Home Theatre Display

by mixy » Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:00 am

I have the same problem guys,

I am a devoted user of media monkey that has built a media center... as you know, media monkey does not work for a living room sofa/ remote control environment. Unfortunately, the choices are very limited: either you use media portal that takes ages to boot or you just accept using WMC...

I have installed WMC and it is driving me crazy. All my collection is nicely tagged with MM. However, WMC does not show the same metadata at all. Also, I love that in MM you can browse by artist within a playlist. In WMC you cannot do that, since a playlist is just a list of songs that cannot be furtherly sorted by artist...

It is so difficult to use another browser when you are just to MM...,

PLEASE, A MM PLUGIN FOR WMC, PLEASE...

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