by Barry4679 » Wed May 19, 2021 9:04 am
yarguy wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:53 am
Sorry, Barry, maybe you should try a few more. MM5 doesn't even come close to programs such as roon or Audirvana (which do cost considerably more). In particular, MM5 is actually worse than MM4 for classical music as MM4 at least has a poor work-around for playing whole compositions - linked tracks. But even that is a long way from what players like roon and Audirvana do for classical listeners. Plus they provide much better support for real Hi-res music and easy integration with Tidal and Qobuz. (And neither wasted time and resources on the now departed low-res Google Play.) And as a way to catalogue a collection it is a joke. No native way to enter label information, no proper way to enter performers (involved people is a sad excuse for this), no way to attach and view pdfs of liner notes, no native way to enter recording information. The best part of MM is auto-organise and MM4 does that just fine.
Hi yaguy, I guess that I need to get out more
... I suppose we all are blinkered by our own Use Cases.
I never use MM for playing music, only for cataloguing and browsing, and sometimes syncing music to my mobile device.
So I am not really qualified to have an opinion really. ... In my own Use Case MM5 is a step change forward IMO.
I have never tried the tools that you mention. I do have a licence to Catraxx, which is still supported but is no longer sold for some reason. It did a good job of integrating listening notes, reviews and liner notes, but its browsing facilities were very primitive. ... MM4 did have a very very basic facility for album related text, but it did not make the cut for the MM5 rewrite and upgrade, which was disappointing. I believe that they said during the beta that they were going to retain our data in the MM5 database, but AFAICS it has been deleted, which is a bit of a piss off.
I still use Catraxx for this purpose, because I never migrated most of my data to MM4 because the support there was so basic.
yarguy wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:53 am
MM5 is actually worse than MM4 for classical music as MM4 at least has a poor work-around for playing whole compositions - linked tracks.
My workaround here is called the album :} ... I only ever queue whole albums.
Sony specifically designed the length of a CD so that almost any single Classical composition, other than Operas, would fit on single album.
I suppose that my support for MM is coloured by two things:
- the Developers were heavily present in the forums during the Alpha and Beta stages, and seemed to try hard to go a long way to meet almost every reasonable request
- the MM database is effectively open source, and with a few Programming skills you can supplement their solid backbone with things of your own invention ... although, if they tried a little harder it would be appreciated
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Sorry, Barry, maybe you should try a few more. MM5 doesn't even come close to programs such as roon or Audirvana (which do cost considerably more). In particular, MM5 is actually worse than MM4 for classical music as MM4 at least has a poor work-around for playing whole compositions - linked tracks. But even that is a long way from what players like roon and Audirvana do for classical listeners. Plus they provide much better support for real Hi-res music and easy integration with Tidal and Qobuz. (And neither wasted time and resources on the now departed low-res Google Play.) And as a way to catalogue a collection it is a joke. No native way to enter label information, no proper way to enter performers (involved people is a sad excuse for this), no way to attach and view pdfs of liner notes, no native way to enter recording information. The best part of MM is auto-organise and MM4 does that just fine.
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Hi yaguy, I guess that I need to get out more :) ... I suppose we all are blinkered by our own Use Cases.
I never use MM for playing music, only for cataloguing and browsing, and sometimes syncing music to my mobile device.
So I am not really qualified to have an opinion really. ... In my own Use Case MM5 is a step change forward IMO.
I have never tried the tools that you mention. I do have a licence to Catraxx, which is still supported but is no longer sold for some reason. It did a good job of integrating listening notes, reviews and liner notes, but its browsing facilities were very primitive. ... MM4 did have a very very basic facility for album related text, but it did not make the cut for the MM5 rewrite and upgrade, which was disappointing. I believe that they said during the beta that they were going to retain our data in the MM5 database, but AFAICS it has been deleted, which is a bit of a piss off.
I still use Catraxx for this purpose, because I never migrated most of my data to MM4 because the support there was so basic.
[quote=yarguy post_id=481703 time=1621428787 user_id=55885]
MM5 is actually worse than MM4 for classical music as MM4 at least has a poor work-around for playing whole compositions - linked tracks.
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My workaround here is called the album :} ... I only ever queue whole albums.
Sony specifically designed the length of a CD so that almost any single Classical composition, other than Operas, would fit on single album.
I suppose that my support for MM is coloured by two things:
[list]the Developers were heavily present in the forums during the Alpha and Beta stages, and seemed to try hard to go a long way to meet almost every reasonable request[/list]
[list]the MM database is effectively open source, and with a few Programming skills you can supplement their solid backbone with things of your own invention ... although, if they [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=481569#p481569]tried a little harder[/url] it would be appreciated[/list]