MediaMonkey with Minilyrics

Agrajag · Post by **Agrajag** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:25 am

Howdy all. Is anyone using this combination out there?

I just started using it and was blown away by how well it worked, initially.

However, I've now noticed that I no longer can exit MM (2.0) without the MS Crash wizard appearing. It was fine before I installed that DLL.

How can I go about addressing this?

BTW, I also asked the authors about the G15 LCD keyboard plugin and got a reply back with a link for a new version of the app and a link for the new plugin. This new version didn't change the above problem. Still there. However, I now have lyrics on the G15 keyboard. With a bit of work this could be perfect for me assuming I can get it all to work.

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:02 pm

Yes, I love the combination so much I made a website specifically about it.

Do you have the latest versions of both Mediamonkey and Minilyrics? I don't have this problem, what settings are you using for open and close of Minilyrics?

Agrajag · Post by **Agrajag** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:09 pm

I just installed it as is. I think my version is current.

In fact, since installing the latest version I find I also have no connectivity to the Net in MM at ALL. Minilyrics can't connect to the web nor can MM connect to anything like FreeDB, etc.

Outside of MM all connections are fine.

What settings are you looking for specifically? I have everything at the default right now I believe.

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:17 pm

Sorry, should have been more specific. Do you have minilyrics configured to run only with mediamonkey or are you using it with other players such as Windows Media Player, etc. Also, if you go to the preferences for Minilyrics and to the 'Internet' tab and test connection, is everything ok?

Agrajag · Post by **Agrajag** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:29 pm

It's only set for MediaMonkey (though I may have left Media Player checked). I'm only using it with Media Monkey and haven't run any other player since installing this for the first time last night.

I did purposely disable iTunes support but unchecking that one during install.

Okay, the plot thickens. Now it's working.

The only change this time was that I removed the "Audio Scrobbler" DLL from the Plug-ins folder. It's used for Last.FM. That was recommended to me as a replacment for Pandora though I find it to be seriously inferior (at least for my suggestions) to Pandora.

You don't happen to have the G15 plug-in do you? I'd like to now find a way to tell minilyrics to not display at all on load and just use the keyboard LCD.

Also what webpage did you create for this?

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:41 pm

Hmm it seems that the audio scrobbler must have been interfering with the Minilyrics plugin somehow, but glad you got it working.

I don't have the G15 plugin but I think there is an easy way to achieve what you want. If you don't already have it, install this script http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9679 . Then, to disable the Minilyrics window on the computer just go to View -> Minilyrics Panel and uncheck it. This should work, although I don't have the keyboard to test with.

Edit: oh and my website is accessible by clicking the www button below, I just made it a few days ago and is still in its early phases, but feel free to leave me any feedback.

Teknojnky · Post by **Teknojnky** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:01 pm

There is some kind of conflict between last.fm scrobbler plugin and minilyrics.

Removing either one will prevent crashes, however that is not very ideal.

You can also prevent crashes by closing minilyrics before closing MM.

Agrajag · Post by **Agrajag** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:01 pm

Henry (not sure if that's a CSR or the developer) at the minilyrics company wrote back that he'd reset the server. That might have been all that was holding me up. I'll have to do some more testing.

Thanks for all the help. This looks like an obvious add-on to register.

BTW, is there some plan to directly support this sort of thing in MM? I'd love to be able to just tell minilyrics to save the lyrics it uses to the Properties of the songs in question. Note I didn't say to save it to the song file. I'd just rather than MM act as a database to store these. It'd then be neat if I could use the ones in MM to trigger minilyrics to display them, etc.

The only lyrics support I see like that is static dead text in the Properties section.

By the way, the embedder approach works great. It was hidden by default which was interesting. I'm sitting here now listening to shuffled music with full lyrics and no sign of Minilyrics popping up. It's all just there on this little LCD. If I ever get rid of this keyboard I'm going to have to find a way to connect just the LCD. It's so useful for a lot of tasks.

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:27 pm

Glad this works for you. I agree that it would be nice to have Mediamonkey integration with synchronized lyrics but I doubt this sort of thing is on the top of their to-do list.

A cool thing in Windows Media player is that you can view the synchronized lyrics in it without Minilyrics even being running, as long as the lyrics are in the mp3 tag. To activate you just click "Play" in the menu (right click next to Now Playing), then lyrics, captions, subtitles --> on if available. It'd be nice if mediamonkey had a similar option.

Agrajag · Post by **Agrajag** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:47 pm

One side note. The embedding process doesn't work well for editing the lyrics. At least on my system this mode brings MiniLyrics to its knees.

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Mon May 21, 2007 5:59 pm

I agree the embedder does make it a little harder but it is still usable.

Steegy · Post by **Steegy** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:18 am

Just reading through this post and saw the above. Everything should be fine in the latest version of the embedder, in case people still have this kind of problems.