Tracks show as played even after 1 sec of play [#10168]

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Re: Tracks show as played even after 1 sec of play [#10168]

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Now that's this issue is fixed (at least, I think it is -- anyone confirm?), there's the other side of the coin - no increase in last-played or playcount unless you play all the way to the end. This is the same as MMW, and easier to deal with.
Barry4679 wrote:The MMA UI is fairly hair triggered, and it is very easy to accidentally trigger a track play while browsing an album.
It's generally too easy to do all sorts of things that can't be easily undone. In particular, far too easy to interrupt a playing track.
I would like to see two-factor UI: either a tap in two separate locations on the screen, or a gesture, for any action that will affect music playing either by starting or stopping it, other than taps on the actual Play/Prev/Next buttons. The idea proffered in another topic, of dragging left to skip forward in the playlist but not actually skip until a confirmation tap, is an example. Similarly when browsing tracks: don't start just because a tap hit the song entry.

As for the alleged difficulties with MMW UPnP server immediately updating last-played on first access: caching doesn't mean anything in this context. The UPnP spec adopts a general eventing framework, and it would be -- well, not simple, but quite doable -- to have the MMA client publish an eventing service that notifies about its actions, like Play Completed, and to have the MMW server to subscribe to it. I don't care if other UPnP clients don't also publish like that; MMW can treat them as it currently does. I wouldn't be surprised if there is already a set of events publicly defined for exactly this purpose.
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Re: Tracks show as played even after 1 sec of play [#10168]

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mcow wrote:I would like to see two-factor UI:
Sounds like making normal use more cumbersome.
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Re: Tracks show as played even after 1 sec of play [#10168]

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mcow wrote:Now that's this issue is fixed (at least, I think it is -- anyone confirm?), there's the other side of the coin - no increase in last-played or playcount unless you play all the way to the end. This is the same as MMW, and easier to deal with.
Not exactly sure which part of the problem that you are refering to.

I am running MMA 1.0.4.0117, which was an update I got yesterday.

When accidently listening to a play on MMA via UPnP the play count and date is updated at track start, with no chance to pause it in time.

As I said this then hides the affected track from an index with a not played for n days filter criteria, which is a frustration.
mcow wrote: It's generally too easy to do all sorts of things that can't be easily undone. In particular, far too easy to interrupt a playing track.
Yes.

I like the MMA UI to display the Now Playinging list. I have a 7 inch tablet. It is hard to move it without something touching|rubbing|brushing|hovering close_to some part of the screen.

I does my head in when the album that I am listening to suddenly jumps to another track.
Lowlander wrote:
mcow wrote:I would like to see two-factor UI:
Sounds like making normal use more cumbersome.
Maybe a just a preference to lock the now playing list against track change taps ... require a long press, or a swipe or something. ... There is a track advance facility on the notification shade anyway for normal use.
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Re: Tracks show as played even after 1 sec of play [#10168]

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mcow wrote:Now that's this issue is fixed (at least, I think it is -- anyone confirm?), there's the other side of the coin - no increase in last-played or playcount unless you play all the way to the end. This is the same as MMW, and easier to deal with.
When playing from UPnP source it is not fixed by 0118 either.

..... (loving the lyrics auto-search which I just noticed)
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Re: Tracks show as played even after 1 sec of play [#10168]

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Barry4679 wrote:Not exactly sure which part of the problem that you are refering to.
Local play (ie. where you sync playcounts with MMW on sync).
Barry4679 wrote:There is a track advance facility on the notification shade anyway for normal use.
Sounds more cumbersome too.
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