Version 2148; various observations

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Version 2148; various observations

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Downloads from GPM: downloaded tags are wrong, and are inconsistent with Devices&Services>GPM>AllTracks display

Filter Devices&Services>GPM>AllTracks to show tracks that I only have only in my GPM library ... ie. they are not in MM, and I don't have the tracks either.
In Devices&Services>GPM>AllTracks you show me that GPM has AlbumArtist, Composer & track# tags for these tracks.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6rin7gos6lno5 ... s.png?dl=0

Use MM to download the tracks.
The downloaded mp3 file has lost the tags
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyr98njbon36c ... s.png?dl=0

The tracks has been inserted into the MM db, but it has lost tags there also
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6njgby77th9kl ... s.png?dl=0

Also the tagging situation seems variable for downloads ... I downloaded this album twice, and got different results
once I got track # for only 1 mp3 track ... and that track had all tags in the downloaded mp3, and all tags were inserted to mm
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o7tan69ecd9wy ... s.png?dl=0

The other time I downloaded the album I got no tags at all
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpe1f4ie4p99z ... s.png?dl=0

Default download location at Tools|Options|Downloads

The default for this config item contains the suffix "<Artist>\<Album>\<Title>" ... this is useful as it auto-organises any downloads
There is a browse button to set a custom location ... if this is used the suffix is not retained. ... and the tool tip does not document the existence of suffix facility, nor its syntax.
So if someone customises to a tailor location they can easily accidentally lose the auto-organisation of downloads, and there is no clue showing how to reset it.

Also why is <albumartist> not accepted in the suffix? ... This causes a problem ... If an album has some tracks by an artist who is different to the albumartist (ie. this often happens in soundtracks; the main soundtrack is written by a composer, but some tracks feature some other artist) ... in this case there is a separate artist/album path for the main composer, and one for each of the feature artists ... and in the case of an entirely mixed artist album, the whole album is split into separate folders.

(funnel) Filters

Add a "Genre equals" filter ... then follow the advice, ie. "click to set" ... it takes three separate clicks to get the selection list, the 1st two clicks seem to be consumed by some invisible process ... it is likely that people will conclude that there is no drop down selection list

Also you cannot delete the last filter criteria, nb: I mean "delete", not "disable" ... where there are multiple filters (ie. Genre=Jazz and Track#<5), you can delete any specific filter criteria line with the "-" on the rhs ... but you cannot delete the last remaining criteria line ... this action disables the criteria, and closes the filter sub-panel ... but if I click the funnel again the "deleted" criteria is restored, and reactivated
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Re: Version 2148; various observations

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Barry4679 wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:48 am Downloads from GPM: downloaded tags are wrong, and are inconsistent with Devices&Services>GPM>AllTracks display
Thanks, I can replicate the issue, to be fixed as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15339
Default download location at Tools|Options|Downloads
<albumartist> not accepted in the suffix?
I guess that the <Album artist> is ?
(funnel) Filters

Add a "Genre equals" filter ... then follow the advice, ie. "click to set" ... it takes three separate clicks to get the selection list, the 1st two clicks seem to be consumed by some invisible process ... it is likely that people will conclude that there is no drop down selection list
OK, we will need to add a "loading" progress or something like that.
Also you cannot delete the last filter criteria, nb: I mean "delete", not "disable" ... where there are multiple filters (ie. Genre=Jazz and Track#<5), you can delete any specific filter criteria line with the "-" on the rhs ... but you cannot delete the last remaining criteria line ... this action disables the criteria, and closes the filter sub-panel ... but if I click the funnel again the "deleted" criteria is restored, and reactivated
Yes, by deleting the last rule the funnel filter is closed. It is not that the last row cannot be deleted, it is just restored (pre-added) next time so that user can immediately edit the first line without a need to unnecessarily click [+] , i.e. it saves one step. Also on clean DB there is the first row "pre-filled".
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Re: Version 2148; various observations

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Ludek wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:07 am
(funnel) Filters

Add a "Genre equals" filter ... then follow the advice, ie. "click to set" ... it takes three separate clicks to get the selection list, the 1st two clicks seem to be consumed by some invisible process ... it is likely that people will conclude that there is no drop down selection list
OK, we will need to add a "loading" progress or something like that.
I don't think that the problem is that I am not patient enough. ... it never returns from the 1st or 2nd click. .... maybe it works better obce you have primed things by using a Genre Equal filter previously ... I was working with a fresh install


Ludek wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:07 am
Default download location at Tools|Options|Downloads
<albumartist> not accepted in the suffix?
I guess that the <Album artist> is ?
I did try <Album Artist> ... nb. see I used upper case in Artist ... it didn't use the album artist tag value .. it created a path named Unknown\<album title>\


Is late here now, I will respond more tomorrow.
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Re: Version 2148; various observations

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As for the empty genre list: this will be fixed in 2149

As for the pre-filled rules, you can use "reset" or MRU list via this menu button: https://www.dropbox.com/s/72pyn0wmg85cg ... 9.png?dl=0 to clear all rules.

Re <Album artist> : yes, it added "Unknown" because you had empty album artist field because of the bug https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15339 , i.e. it was consequence of #15339 that is fixed in 2149

I found also some other bugs during testing (fixed in 2149):
https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15340
https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15341
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Re: Version 2148; various observations

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Ludek wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:07 am Yes, by deleting the last rule the funnel filter is closed. It is not that the last row cannot be deleted, it is just restored (pre-added) next time so that user can immediately edit the first line without a need to unnecessarily click [+] , i.e. it saves one step. Also on clean DB there is the first row "pre-filled"
I reinstall MM5, and clicked the funnel for the 1st time. ... I didn't get a pre-filled filter row. ... and I don't miss having one btw. I can see the "+" button.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rmeb0cdak7gef ... l.png?dl=0

I see what you are saying, but IMO it is not very useful. ... OK you have saved one click from a multi-click action ... but it just makes me think that there is a bug, or I had forgotten to do something last time. ... I don't know how to reliably reproduce, but sometimes it is empty, ie. your restored pre-load doesn't work, which makes the situation more confusing.

You restore, and re-activate, a filter which I explicitly deleted ... ie. I had the choice if just turning filtering off, and leaving the specification sitting there ... or I could have just disabled that filter criteria with the check box if I thought that it may be useful later ... in those cases I would have expected what you did ... but I explicitly deleted it. ... and if wanted to restore it, I could recall it from the Recently Used list.

It is no big deal. But it is not much use either IMO.
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