GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Peke wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:01 pm FYI Berry: Fun fact is that in 1999 when unlawfully NATO bombed Serbia one Tomahawk or Air bomb hit house 250m from mine and all windows in my house went puff from detonation. So I doubt I would worry too much about few HDDs 8)
Nasty. Not so much "fun", but I know what you meant.
The last, and probably only. air attack on Australia was in 1942. Our current "puff" threat is fire. During the 2019-2020 fire season approx 3,000 homes where destroyed, killing 34 people, and an estimated 1 billion vertebrates.

I live at the edge of the bush, but I had no damage, other than to my lungs probably. We had soot landing everywhere, and could not see the middle distance.

My suspicion is that you would miss your HDDs more than you realise, but hopefully that will never be tested.
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Hi all, I tried to read a lot of the forum but it was way over my head...I use GPM and housed about 500gb of music there as well as on my comp...I have playlists I would like to bring over to MM but dont know how. I can get them in a txt or csv file if needed.
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Hi,
ATM I can suggest that you use MM5 to SYNC tracks back to PC before all goes bye bye.
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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mikejustis wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am I use GPM and housed about 500gb of music there as well as on my comp...I have playlists I would like to bring over to MM but dont know how. I can get them in a txt or csv file if needed.
Your playlists use just the 500gb of your own tracks? Or they also feature tracks that you don't have local copies of (ie. Google's tracks)?
What would you guess was the % of each?

Peke's suggestion would work for your own tracks.
I don't think it would work for Google's tracks ... ie. a sync to GPM of these tracks in a playlist, would only capture the path to where they are stored in GPM, which is about to close soon. ... I haven't tested it, but I very much doubt that the path will be any use once the migration to YTM is complete.

It violates Googles TOS, but MM5 does allow you to download tracks from GPM. So you could get track copies before GPM closes down.

PM me if you need assistance with MM5<->GPM ... it is not relevant in this forum anymore.

There have been suggestions here that they are evaluating some form MM5 <-> YTM sync ... which would mean that you do not need to do anything ... but there is no evidence that there is any actual work being done, and there is no information about how extensive the facilties would be, and I doubt that you will have any information that you can rely upon before GPM closes down.

Questions to all:
  1. Does anyone know of a MM4 addon that can build MM playlists from Mike's txt or csv files.
  2. Does anyone know if Google's migration from GPM to YTM also migrate your own uploaded tracks & GPM playlists which use those tracks ... are the playlists still functional?
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Thanks for the help on this...I found a guy that set up a Java script that scrapes GPM and creates a m3u. I uploaded to mm and it auto scrolls through every song in "Now Playing" but will not play anything. It is using this format...

#EXTINF:229,The Beatles - Across the Universe
Let It Be/The Beatles - Across the Universe.mp3

I used the auto format/tag /something (sorry I was trying anything) and then was able to export Now Playing to a m3u and it is in this format. Both do the same autoscroll

E:\Mikes\Music\Distillation\Erin Mckeown - La Petite Mort.mp3
E:\Mikes\Music\Music From The North Country (The Jayhawks Anthology)\The Jayhawks - I Think I've Had Enough.mp3
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Oh, and it does the same thing in WinAmp so I am guessing its something in the format of the m3u
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Check the Path of the files and see verify that the files are actually stored exactly like the Path on the Playlist. The Playlists points to files, thus the Paths need to point to existing files for any media player to be able to use the Playlist to find the files.

Related: http://mediamonkey.com/support/index.ph ... ls-to-play
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Interesting, it switched the location...from the m3u that MM created its saying

E:\Mikes\Music\Distillation\Erin Mckeown - La Petite Mort.mp3

In my system its

E:\Mikes\Music\Erin Mckeown\Distillation

The order is Musician/Album in my system not Album/Musician.
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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Probably time to pull GPM options from MM5 now.

https://9to5google.com/2020/10/12/googl ... -shutdown/
“Browse music” no longer appears this afternoon, while the web displays a “Music store on Google Play is no longer available” shutdown message. This deprecation started in late August, and some users lost access over the course of September. It follows the Music Manager desktop app also shutting down.

Looking ahead, Play Music will lose the ability to stream content around the world later this month. Google will keep Play Music playlists, uploads, purchases, likes, and other data until December to give users a chance to migrate to YouTube Music using the transfer tool. All data will be removed after that.
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Re: GPM being discontinued in favor of YTM

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I agree that it should not be installed by default at this point, completely removing it would be a waste, though, as it can still be a valuable resource for people working on an extension. Maybe just including it in the samplescripts folder without actually shipping MM with the extension installed could be a compromise?
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TIV73 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:24 pm I agree that it should not be installed by default at this point, completely removing it would be a waste, though, as it can still be a valuable resource for people working on an extension. Maybe just including it in the samplescripts folder without actually shipping MM with the extension installed could be a compromise?
Sounds good ... I haven't looked, but is there much of the GPM functionality that is in the scripts folder? Based upon the speed that it was chewing through my 50k+ GPM library, during syncing, matching and importing into the db, I would assume that most of the heavy lifting is compiled.

There were multiple facilities within the GPM integration with MM5. Peke said that they are evaluating YTM integration. My guess is that it is unlikely at this late stage, I suppose that there are many Use Cases, but it seems to me that some of the existing GPM integration is essential, and some of it is just nice to have. Maybe this makes the initial 1st stage task smaller, and doable?

I would assume that largest Use Case is for people to use MM5 to make playlists for their YTM libraries ... playlists that they could stream from, using the YTM client, when commuting, or away from home. This means that MM needs to know which tracks are in your YTM library, including any tracks which you stream, but don't own. MM also needs to know the location of all of these tracks.

For this use case, these functions seem essential:
  • import the dictionary of tracks from a YTM library
  • match these tracks against the MM database
  • store YTM location of matched tracks
  • add any new tracks into the MM db
  • and a facility to upload selected MM playlists into the YTM library
The remaining MM5 functions are nice to have, but not essential for this Use Case. Maybe they could be left for a later upgrade?:
  • upload our own tracks into the YTM library ... Google already have a tool for this function
  • keeping the MM and YTM libraries in sync .... a periodic run of import|match etc is OK
  • downloading the actual tracks from YTM
  • using MM to play tracks from a YTM source ... we can play and cast, at home, using the YTM client
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