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TheBestPessimist
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Post by TheBestPessimist »

Hello, i have collected a number of suggestions from my MM5 usage.

They are all located here: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-suggestions/4679 (cc @jiri for a discourse example)

Here are the main headings:

1. Make view List (by Album) available everywhere: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... everywhere


2. Pinned tree seems broken: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... ems-broken


3. Rating Up and Rating Down hotkeys should be switched by default: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... by-default


4. Horizontal scrolling: Shift + Scroll does not work in Playing: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... s-not-work


5. Horizontal scrolling: using the touchpad is very janky compared to vertical scrolling: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... -scrolling


6. Artwork is displayed wrong when scrolling: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... -scrolling


7. Playing: When changing sort keep showing current song: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... rrent-song



If any new headings/ideas appear, this OP will be updated.
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Barry4679
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Re: MM5 suggestions

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TheBestPessimist wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:50 am 4. Horizontal scrolling: Shift + Scroll does not work: https://chat.tbp.land/t/mediamonkey-5-s ... s-not-work
Hi. how are you initiating scrolling? In which views|skins do you see the problem?

I initiate scrolling via my mouse wheel. In this context shift-scrolling initiates a horizontal scroll for me in the views that I tested (List and List By Album).

BTW, I agree your suggestions #1 & #7 re the Playing panel.
Also agree #3 re the Rating hot keys. There is one small issue ... they were that way (ie. broken) in MM4 also, so a fix may inconvenience muscle memory for some people.

Additional to your point, hot key rating seems flaky.
  • hold ALT key ... 5 key to set to 5
  • continue holding alt ... type 7 7 6 .. to drop a point, then back up a half
  • ==> tracking has gone to sleep ... when this happens I need to release the alt key, and wait a while for something to timeout
  • I seem to have wait a little between each key press to make sure that it does not seize up
  • there is a small improvement over MM4 ... the bell chimes each time a hot key is detected
  • ==> but the bell chimes when hot key tagging has seized up, so the bell chime is very misleading
TheBestPessimist
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Re: MM5 suggestions

Post by TheBestPessimist »

Barry4679 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:57 am Hi. how are you initiating scrolling? In which views|skins do you see the problem?
Good catch!
✅ Is working (View: Any , however only `List`, `List by album` are capable of horizontal scrolling):
- All tracks
- Albums
- Files to Edit/Unknown Title


❌ Not working:
- Playing / View: Any (however only list is capable of horizontal scrolling)

Tested skins: Material Design (Dark); Metro M (classic)

Also agree #3 re the Rating hot keys. There is one small issue ... they were that way (ie. broken) in MM4 also, so a fix may inconvenience muscle memory for some people.
As an (opinionated) software developer, I strongly believe in doing The Right Thing™. And in this case, The Right Thing™ is to use my suggestion even if muscle memory is lost. Muscle memory can be re-trained. Plus, for those who really, strongly don't want to re-train, they can quickly change it back. It is my belief that teaching people to do it the right way from the start is an acceptable breakage, especially since this is a whole new MM version.
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Re: MM5 suggestions

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Ludek
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Re: MM5 suggestions

Post by Ludek »

#1: Tracked as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=17750

#2 : it sounds that you pinned whole collection this way and the collection cannot be unpinned, i.e. this issue re-occurs: https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=16967
Re-opened for tweaking.

#3 is tracked as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=17749

#7: is tracked as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=17752

#5/6: I haven't been able to replicate yet, but will continue checking.

Thansk for reporting!
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Re: MM5 suggestions

Post by TheBestPessimist »

Thanks for creating all the relevant tickets
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Re: MM5 suggestions

Post by TheBestPessimist »

Barry4679 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:57 am Additional to your point, hot key rating seems flaky.

I have the feeling this "ding" (which I also hear and dislike) is related to event propagation: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/doc ... ropagation. Probably this is also why pressing the shortcuts multiple times leads to losing the selection in that subtle way.
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