Why does MM add a second date/year field to tags?

[BenRad]

Maybe this has been discussed before, but I noticed after cleaning up a large amount of tags using MP3Tag and Foobar, I went back into MM and synched the tags. After synching, MM added another date/year tag, so when you open the file in either MP3Tag and Foobar, it shows: 2001/2001.

Is there a a reason for this behavior?

My apologies if this has already been talked about, I wasn't sure what to search on.

[nohitter151]

For maximum compatibility with other programs, because not all programs can read from the same mp3 tags. See:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/support/inde ... ticleid=62

[chrisjj]

Known bug:

Duplicate ORIGYEAR tag written to mp3 files
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5822

[BenRad]

Makes sense. Thanks for the tip.

[nohitter151]

Known bug:

Duplicate ORIGYEAR tag written to mp3 files
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5822

As I read it, the question was about "Year" (Date) not "Original year".

[chrisjj]

> As I read it, the question was about "Year" (Date) not "Original year".

I read it as written: "another date/year tag". And anyway, both fields are bugged:

Duplicate YEAR and ORIGYEAR tags bug#5822
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =7&t=30185

Also, that thread also reports that the workaround you proposed then, as now, does not work.

Devs, again I ask, are you planning to fix this?

[nohitter151]

Also, that thread also reports that the workaround you proposed then, as now, does not work.

I don't recall posting any alternate solution in that thread, though I do recall opening a new bug for this.

[chrisjj]

>> Also, that thread also reports that the workaround you proposed then, as now, does not work.
> I don't recall posting any alternate solution in that thread

Here's the workaround post I was referring to: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26#p153926

[nohitter151]

>> Also, that thread also reports that the workaround you proposed then, as now, does not work.
> I don't recall posting any alternate solution in that thread

Here's the workaround post I was referring to: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26#p153926

Yes that should solve the Year but not the Orig year issue. To solve both the workaround is:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26#p216174

[negcreep80]

Bumping this thread...I thought I had worked around this in a previous installation of MM, but since I recently had to do a clean reinstall, I've been noticing the same problem again.

To recap, I have MM vers. 4.0.7.1511 (Gold), installed in Portable mode. The issue is that when I do any editing of tags in Mediamonkey (even if it's not the Date field on Basic tab of Properties), it changes the date tag in a program like Mp3Tag to appear as year\\year.

The solution I thought worked before was to edit the mediamonkey.ini file and adding the [mp3tagging] entry to:

[MP3Tagging]
DisableFrames=TDRC;TDOR;
EnableFrames=TYER;TDAT;TORY;

Does that still hold true? It doesn't seem to work for me anymore...does that entry need to be in a particular spot in the .ini file? The default .ini file in the Portable directory did not have a [MP3tagging] section already, so I opened with Notepad and just added the above to the bottom of the .ini file and saved.

Would appreciate any updates or if I'm missing something...it's a minor annoyance, but the OC in me would love to get it fixed once and for all.

Cheers.

[Guest]

How did checking at mp3tag's developers go when you asked them to change to the 2 date system mediamonkey uses?

[nohitter151]

Bumping this thread...I thought I had worked around this in a previous installation of MM, but since I recently had to do a clean reinstall, I've been noticing the same problem again.

To recap, I have MM vers. 4.0.7.1511 (Gold), installed in Portable mode. The issue is that when I do any editing of tags in Mediamonkey (even if it's not the Date field on Basic tab of Properties), it changes the date tag in a program like Mp3Tag to appear as year\\year.

The solution I thought worked before was to edit the mediamonkey.ini file and adding the [mp3tagging] entry to:

[MP3Tagging]
DisableFrames=TDRC;TDOR;
EnableFrames=TYER;TDAT;TORY;

Does that still hold true? It doesn't seem to work for me anymore...does that entry need to be in a particular spot in the .ini file? The default .ini file in the Portable directory did not have a [MP3tagging] section already, so I opened with Notepad and just added the above to the bottom of the .ini file and saved.

Would appreciate any updates or if I'm missing something...it's a minor annoyance, but the OC in me would love to get it fixed once and for all.

Cheers.

After you made the change, did you re-write the tags? see http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 85#p211912

[negcreep80]

Thanks Nohitter...it's always a big help to have your input.

Unfortunately, no change when I tried to rewrite the tags or synchronize the track...is there a possible syntax error that I'm not familiar with when copying and pasting the [MP3Tagging] to my .ini file? As I said, I did not have that section in the standard .ini file after I reinstalled Mediamonkey. Anything else you can think of that I could change in the .ini file so that MM will talk to Mp3Tag?

The truth is, I like having the option to add the Original Year field in Mediamonkey and it's a shame that Mp3Tag doesn't seem to offer that...I found this thread http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showt ... ediamonkey which seems to describe the issue perfectly, but not really how to fix it in Mediamonkey. But I was using Mp3tag as a holdover from my Itunes days, so maybe it's time to move on since I use MM almost exclusively these days.

Anyway, curious if you have any other suggestions, and appreciate your time as always.

Cheers

[rovingcowboy]

Turn off option to update tags when song is played, turn off option to update tags if time stamp is changed. Make sure any other option for monkey to auto tag songs is off.
Select all songs at once if you have 10 gb or more of ram, use small groups of songs if less ram. After selecting songs right click one of the, then click properties.

In panel clear the one date field for original date, check box beside that now cleared date field.
Now click okay button to close properties wait for it to finish and do another group of songs,
Repeat untill finished close mm.
Whats so hard about that?

Now open in mp3tagger check to see if second date is now gone.

[nohitter151]

Unfortunately, no change when I tried to rewrite the tags or synchronize the track...is there a possible syntax error that I'm not familiar with when copying and pasting the [MP3Tagging] to my .ini file? As I said, I did not have that section in the standard .ini file after I reinstalled Mediamonkey. Anything else you can think of that I could change in the .ini file so that MM will talk to Mp3Tag?

No, I know the section has to be added in and it doesn't matter where it is in the file. The only other thing I could guess is to make sure it was the right .ini file you edited.