Cannot rename directory [#20273]

[Jim Kelly]

Hi Rob,

Vice Versa Pro is very good - Where it finds a difference it deletes in the destination and replaces with the newer file.

You can set the 'job' to be one way OR two way (which keeps both disks identical, catering pretty well to a shared folder used by yourself on two computers - say your desktop and your notebook - but you cannot change both versions of the file of course - just a matter of synching often which is no drama, and quick because it just has to deal with changed files and folders).

It is very folder based so you can have several synched folders from a huge desktop disk system synched with a smaller disk in a notebook.

I've been using it for years and it has never let me down.

[Jim Kelly]

Hi Lowlander,

I haven't tried to use Auto-Organize (Files) at all (being very wary at the moment of anything 'automatic').
I have checked the dialog and there is nothing set at all.

I am pretty sure these bugs are showing up where lots of changes are being made to both the folder naming - and to moving folder trees to another part of the tree. I have been doing this to try to keep track of what albums have been checked and what still needs checking, a staged Work-in-Progress (WIP) if you like.

If you have a development machine available try and simulate it and you might just see:
* the lack of status when MM5 is still busy doing this sort of thing to hundreds of files at a time.
* very odd jumping about of the focus as you are trying to make even small changes (say just one filename) typically ending with the focus jumping away to the next highest folder in the open tree on the left-hand-pane - very frustrating!
* It is very troublesome to edit many fields (EG Title) in that a lot of slow clicks are needed before it stops dismissing you and often jumping focus to the next higher file in the current list. It is hard to imagine that this could be tolerated by QA so it might give you a clue as to where my issue is.
* eventally a crash of some kind with corruption of the folder structure in the vicinity of the folder being moved.

Yesterday I got elaborate error messages (two in a row) that I have captured as .JPGs.
If you send me a link as to how to attach them, it is likely to help those of you trying to tidy this area of MM5 up.

Thanks,

Jim Kelly

[Peke]

Hi,

I haven't tried to use Auto-Organize (Files) at all (being very wary at the moment of anything 'automatic').
I have checked the dialog and there is nothing set at all.

No need to be worried you have previews of the results, before you even click OK.

I'll try to answer your concerns:

* the lack of status when MM5 is still busy doing this sort of thing to hundreds of files at a time.

You have status bar and also busy icon that show info on mouse move.

* very odd jumping about of the focus as you are trying to make even small changes (say just one filename) typically ending with the focus jumping away to the next highest folder in the open tree on the left-hand-pane - very frustrating!

You can always Drag and Drop using Location Tree node and filename you can easily edit inline in list no need to use properties. Auto organize is batch rename to mak ethings easier ant complicate things.

* It is very troublesome to edit many fields (EG Title) in that a lot of slow clicks are needed before it stops dismissing you and often jumping focus to the next higher file in the current list. It is hard to imagine that this could be tolerated by QA so it might give you a clue as to where my issue is.

Open properties of one file -> Edit Title -> Click next Arrow -> Edit title -> .... Or I miss something?

Let me know if I got at least one of your concerns

[Lowlander]

Auto-Organize Files is a manual job. You get to verify the changes before it makes it.

Screenshots is explained here: viewtopic.php?t=97733

[Jim Kelly]

Lowlander and Peke, thanks for the reasurance that I can trust the Auto Organise Files routine to help sort out the realigning of my disturbed .flac files/tags (because there is a chance to review the potential results - and quit if it is not ideal).

For the benefit of those following along, a ticket has been created with DEV for the issues that I have raised here and I am confident that they'll get them attended to soon, perhaps in the next upgrade. Thanks Peke for seeing my distress and taking this on - very much appreciated, you've been a great help, and I look forward to helping with some testing if that can help MM5w get even better.

Now I just need to let my full backup finish and then get to trying some of these ideas. Thanks again L & P.

Best wishes,
Jim Kelly

[MattTown]

MM5 suffers from an idiosyncratic user interface, but if you need the power of MM5 and put the time in then you can become accustomed to it.
I rely upon Auto Organise to do all my file relocations, but that does depend upon you having a clear idea of what structure you want, knowing how to code that into the mask and then having scrupulously accurate tags. Do those things and then organising your files will be simple.

[Jim Kelly]

Hi Matt,
Yes, it is hard to understand why the quirks in the UI have not been sorted out in earlier releases, maybe it is too late now?
It's funny how you don't appreciate the little things until they are gone! Like the triangles at each end of scroll bars to give a small movement to fine tune your display; like expanding a folder and having as much as possible automatically displayed; ditto for using just one letter to jump in a long list and seeing as many files as will fit that start with that character, . . . they make the product feel unfinished or thoughtless imo, which is certainly not the case, but it must frighten off many new comers to the product.

Learning to make those Organise files masks is high on my todo list, as is adapting to the new Auto-Playlists. Thanks for your encouragement, it is good to know that the little hurdles are worth putting up with to get to the powerful seriously good stuff. I'm pretty pedantic about my tagging so I should manage when I get my head around the syntax.
Cheers,