iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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I am syncing my iPod touch (8gb, v3.1.2) with MM (v 3.2) and it all works fine (tracks, playlists, album art) except I don't get any lyrics downloaded to the iPod. Can anybody tell me how to fix this? Thanks!
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andrewjmay wrote:I am syncing my iPod touch (8gb, v3.1.2) with MM (v 3.2) and it all works fine (tracks, playlists, album art) except I don't get any lyrics downloaded to the iPod. Can anybody tell me how to fix this? Thanks!
Stupid question, but do the tracks have lyrics in MM?
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Re: iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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Yes, the lyrics are visible when I access the track from the main library listing. When the iPod is connected to MM, it shows up in the left hand menu in MM. When I look at the same tracks in this listing, the lyrics aren't there. And, of course, they aren't on the iPod itself. Thanks.
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andrewjmay wrote:When the iPod is connected to MM, it shows up in the left hand menu in MM. When I look at the same tracks in this listing, the lyrics aren't there.
That's expected.
And, of course, they aren't on the iPod itself. Thanks.
I don't know, I have an iPhone and its working fine. Might be beneficial to clear your iPod and resync.
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Yes, I was thinking the same - delete everything and start over. I'll let you know how it goes. Thx.
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Re: iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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I'm just trying this feature as well ... songs with lyrics in the properties in MM don't show up on a 6G Ipod Classic (See below; track turned out not to have lyrics in it) ... is it known whether iTunes hasn't used a proprietary tag, or is iTunes and recent iPods using the conventional tag (file type: MP3)?

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davidbspalding wrote:I'm just trying this feature as well ... songs with lyrics in the properties in MM don't show up on a 6G Ipod Classic ... is it known whether iTunes hasn't used a proprietary tag, or is iTunes and recent iPods using the conventional tag (file type: MP3)?

TIA.
I'm pretty sure it just looks in the id3v2 tag. There's an open bug that specifically mentions an issue with the nano: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=6072
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Re: iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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Thanks, I double-checked (in MM), and the track that I had inserted lyrics into no longer had them. (scratches head) Will play with this some more, but for now my report is in error.
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Tested again, lyrics sync to my Ipod 6G Classic -- one song, the entire lyrics can be scrolled through, others only one screenful is shown, with an ellipsis at the end (...). Can't figure a rhyme or reason to this, except the lyrics that I can view fully were pasted from a text editor into the Lyrics tab of track properties, the others were downloaded and added by Lyricator 1.0.5.0013. The full lyrics are seen in MM. :-? Anyone know if the IPod firmware reads lyrics from the file (there's a short delay when I select them), or are they written to the database?
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my songs dont even go there :evil: :evil:
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It reads lyrics from the tags.
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Re: iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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That helps ... I looked at the iPod with the "lyrics issues" while connected, through MM, and the Lyric properties of the tracks "on" the iPod are blank. Hrm.

Looking at the iPod again (disconnected) at, e.g. Peter Gabriel SHAKING THE TREE, the first song has all the lyrics, but subsequent songs have them truncated. All were populated with Lyricator. Looking at another album on the iPod I encountered something that a lot of users on the Apple support forums are complaining about: "Lyrics detected, but unable to retrieve." Apple's forums are full of posts like, "iPod locking up on 'Loading lyrics,'" and "iPod locks up when I try to read lyrics"; haven't had that, knock wood. Over there, the usual suspects include: updates to iTunes 9.1.x, and firmware update 3.1.3 (iPhone, iPod Touch?). No indication that I can find whether these users are loading the device with AAC or MP3 (I'm 99.9% MP3).

If MM isn't transliterating lyrics to the iPod database or something, then I suspect the iPod firmware is incompatible with ... something ... with the MP3 files. Thanks, Apple. Any further clues, anyone?

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Further indications that it's a problem with iPods ... I used RegExp Find & Replace 4.0 to remove double blank lines and trailing spaces from lyrics added to two Peter Gabriel albums (loaded down with Lyricator), and then synced up both an 6G iPod Classic and a 3G iPod Nano. Comparing the exact same tracks side-by-side (nothing auto-converted or transcoded during sync) ... for each track, the Nano shows full lyrics without problems, and the iPod Classic generally truncates the lyrics at the bottom of the screen with an ellipsis, or displays "Lyrics detected, but unable to retrieve." I haven't messed with iTunes (still at 9.0.3 iirc), as I don't sync doodly-squat with iTunes.
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Re: iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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OK, I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one with this ipod only syncing a screenful view of lyrics. Just wanted to add, because this happened to me, if you have your ipod set to sync back with MM so you can update ratings and playcounts, it will also write back the shortened lyrics to MM. So basically whatever songs I've listened to on my ipod when synced back will now show like 8 lines of lyrics in my MM database and mp3 files. It took a few thousand songs before I actually noticed, " what's up with all these songs with short lyrics!"
Sad thing is a lot of the songs were lyrics that I had to actually go and hunt down cuz they aren't on the standard lyricator search list. (But that's the price i pay for listening to obscure music!)
But anyhow, just wondering if others have had success syncing there whole library with lyrics on an Ipod 7th gen classic and if they did anything in particular to make it function correctly???

Just wanted to add, that some songs did sync correctly the whole lyrics from MM. They were 90 percent of the time the first songs on an album. Weird?
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what the hell do i do when it won't put my music on ipod tou

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guess what???? MEDIA MONKEY WON'T LOAD MY MUSIC ONTO MY IPOD AND I'M VEEEEERY ANGRY! What DO I DO?!
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papadakis wrote:guess what???? MEDIA MONKEY WON'T LOAD MY MUSIC ONTO MY IPOD AND I'M VEEEEERY ANGRY! What DO I DO?!
Create a new post and give us some details. Complaining in an unrelated topic isn't going to help anything.
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Re: iPod Touch Lyrics won't sync

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Just wanted to follow up with this post and see if anyone has had success getting their ipod classic to sync full lyrics with MM. Had to redo my MM database because it became malformed, so when i went to sync my ipod all the music was on there I couldn't get MM to recognize the tracks were already on there without having to resynch the whole ipod. Anyhow, the first few artists had their lyrics synch over correctly but after that it went back to just the screenfull of lyrics that I had problem with last time. So I disabled the resynch back to MM from the IPOD because I didn't want to lose any lyrics like I did last year. Anyone have any luck getting their IPOD classic to synch more than a screenfull of lyrics, or was it decided that it is a IPOD firmware issue?
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