MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes4.dll)

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markstuartwalker
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by markstuartwalker »

JuBe wrote:One more question, will files be removed from the cache if they are no longer in the iTunes database?

I only sync the songs which will go on my iPhone, which is around 19-20 GB. Under "Music" in iTunes it says I have 19.46 GB of music. The size of the cache right now is 27 GB, (and my hdd is low on space!)
It sounds like you have cache growth caused by renaming music files or moving stuff around i.e. you have got unused information in the cache.

No, this will not be flushed out; the new design will ensure that it won't happen more in the future. The way to solve this is to delete the entire cache (or at least parts that you can see are unused and let only the necessary content be replaced.
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507
iBurger
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by iBurger »

> Sync playcounts, ratings and ID3. This switches on the sychronisation and update of these values each time the device is synchronised. Switch off to stop synchronisation.
I went through the same experiments a few months ago when I switched to using Mark's plugin full time so maybe I can save you some time. iTunes will update the modified date on any mp3 that you sync using the plugin to the current date/time, but only the first time it is synced and imported into the iTunes library. Once it's part of the iTunes library, syncing back and forth between MM and iTunes won't change the modified date even if you make tag or art changes in MM. I tried setting the files to read-only, etc. to prevent iTunes from changing the dates upon import, but I couldn't get it to work. I found the easiest way is to make a backup of your entire music library, sync your tracks using the plugin (iTunes will mess up all the modified dates), now overwrite any file that iTunes changed with the backup copies that have the correct, original date. Now all your files will be in the iTunes library and they will all have the correct, original modified dates and you can sync back and forth as much as you want.
After some trial-n-error I conclude that the plugin doesn't sync album art.

Can I do something about this? Perhaps change a setting in the config to get the "timestamp property" updated?
markstuartwalker
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

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Yes, itunes behaviour towards the tracks in it's library is one of the reasons that I recommend having a cache folder. There are other unwanted subtleties too such as the star thresholds for the ratings a different in the 2 systems. If you use some auto rating tools these can cause very odd effects.

Album art should sync (though I've not re-tested it lately) ... sort of. Unfortunately I cannot tell if an embedded image has changed (there is no date or checksum on the image that I can check). The plugin will only update the changed album art only if the NUMBER of embedded images has changed. Pretty clumsy but it's the best hat I can do unfortunately.
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507
JuBe
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by JuBe »

markstuartwalker wrote:There are lots of aspects to sound leveling that need to be explained and considered. Personally I do not use leveling in the MM sync nor in iTunes.

* If you sound level while syncing MM->iTunes then MM will always create separate mp3 files. This will be the file that will be put in the cache.
* It's pointless to have more than one leveling switched on as one will negate the other.
* Leveling works by analysing the sound and determining a scaling factor which will amplify or attenuate and then using this factor at playback. It does not affect the quality of the sound at all as there is no re-sampling being down
* Sound leveling works against music that is supposed to be quiet ralative to other tracks
* All cases of too loud or too quiet that I have come across have been solved by re-sampling the music (usually at a high bitrate)
I got impatient and ended up using Sound Check in iTunes before you posted, and I have been using it for several days now without any problems. I have the sound level analyzed in mediamonkey as well. With both sound leveling systems used, the MediaMonkey sound leveling appears unaffected and my iPhone songs are closer in volume now. I don't know the technicalities, but I just wanted to report my results.

Does it have anything to do with iTunes affecting only the songs in the cache and somehow this doesn't translate back to MediaMonkey or the original sound files?
markstuartwalker
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

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Yes, that's a perfect example of why the cache is necessary.
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507
markstuartwalker
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

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New version http://www.mediamonkey.com/addon_system ... ion_id=129

This introduces a very new feature .... the ability to sync the MM database to a copy of iTunes running on a Mac. This goes hand in hand with my attempts at running MM under Wine on my Mac http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... start=9999

In this new mode the system operates exactly as before but iTunes does not need to be running on the same machine. The Cache folder receives the mp3 files as before but has additional xml files which contain the play count and a Playlists folder with m3u files. An Applescript script is then used on the Mac to pull this information into the Mac OSX iTunes. This script is still under development.

The original "iTunes runs under Windows" mode is the default setting and runs unchanged. I've only checked this a little so if others can confirm this is still operational then please let me know.
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507
JuBe
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

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markstuartwalker wrote:New version http://www.mediamonkey.com/addon_system ... ion_id=129

This introduces a very new feature .... the ability to sync the MM database to a copy of iTunes running on a Mac. This goes hand in hand with my attempts at running MM under Wine on my Mac http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... start=9999

In this new mode the system operates exactly as before but iTunes does not need to be running on the same machine. The Cache folder receives the mp3 files as before but has additional xml files which contain the play count and a Playlists folder with m3u files. An Applescript script is then used on the Mac to pull this information into the Mac OSX iTunes. This script is still under development.

The original "iTunes runs under Windows" mode is the default setting and runs unchanged. I've only checked this a little so if others can confirm this is still operational then please let me know.
Wow very cool! I will find this very useful once i get my new computer, probably a MacBook.
markstuartwalker
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

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I'm bracing myself for the release of IOS 5 and iTunes 10.5 2 reasons
  • It has brings wireless sync which does away with the USB connection entirely. This will mean quite a change for me at home as I no longer will need my laptop for sync. The MM iPhone driver will not do this in its present form.
  • The MM iPhone driver is likely NOT to work immediately. This happened before at IOS 4 release and was the main reason that I started this effort. People use my driver as a work around in place of the MM driver.
Windows 7,8 / Ubuntu 13.10 / Mavericks 10.9 / iOS 7.1 / iTunes 11.1
iTunes plugin (d_itunes & itunes4) http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=45713
Running MM under Mac OS X with Wine http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =4&t=58507
FailedUser

Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by FailedUser »

Updated 16/6/2011[/quote]

Excited to try your plugin, but installation fails immediately with "Product Installation Error" in MM. I am on a Win7 x64 platform. Any ideas? DBGView doesn't log anything useful...

Thanks in advance,
-Whit
Lowlander
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

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FailedUser wrote:but installation fails immediately with "Product Installation Error"
http://www.mediamonkey.com/support/inde ... ticleid=59
wanderingwhit
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by wanderingwhit »

That did it... had to run MM as admin. Thanks!!!!
saber007
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by saber007 »

Hi.
I am having issues updating to any plugin build after 4.0.2.1494 running on Win 7 x64
If I update to any more recent version it does not see my itunes library and when I try to sync i get the error ".... Cannot be synchronised at this time"
I am running the latest build of Media Monday 4.0.0.1424

Can you offer any advise as to why it is giving this error.
anli
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by anli »

I had the same error. After I did a clean install of MM everything was fine again.
jgangstahippie7:18
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by jgangstahippie7:18 »

I have Mediamonkey 3.2.5 and when I synce I see on MediaMoney "copying my all songs to the device" but I only see my podcasts on itunes (10.4.1). My cache is full of all my songs, but I only see my podcasts in itunes. What am I doing wrong?
saber007
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Re: MediaMonkey iTunes plugin (d_itunes.dll & d_itunes4.dll)

Post by saber007 »

anli wrote:I had the same error. After I did a clean install of MM everything was fine again.
I tried that and still no luck.
uninstalled the plugin.
Then uninstalled Media Monkey

Then installed a fresh copy and installed the plugin again from the MM site and am gettign the same error.

Anyone got any ideas.
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