A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

Post by rovingcowboy »

but its not the same hard drive id number on both pc's.

one of them is taking control of the hd.

i know your using an breifcase file hd. i got and 320 gb WD my passport essential, one here too.

monkey gives hd id numbers to each hd. maybe your two monkeys are giving two different id numbers and storing them both on the hd or it could be storing its copy of the mmdb file on the portable making it have two files one for each monkey.

if your sync'ing your hd with home. then when you get to work and it is not seeing it maybe try rescaning of the portable to get it to see the new files. is the only way it will work. unless rusty or ludek or jiri or other smart programmer can get monkey to see the other monkey's id number and database info. :-?
roving cowboy / keith hall. My skins http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =9&t=16724 for some help check on Monkey's helpful messages at http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 4008#44008 MY SYSTEMS.1.Jukebox WinXp pro sp 3 version 3.5 gigabyte mb. 281 GHz amd athlon x2 240 built by me.) 2.WinXP pro sp3, vers 2.5.5 and vers 3.5 backup storage, shuttle 32a mb,734 MHz amd athlon put together by me.) 3.Dell demension, winxp pro sp3, mm3.5 spare jukebox.) 4.WinXp pro sp3, vers 3.5, dad's computer bought from computer store. )5. Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Android ) 6. amd a8-5600 apu 3.60ghz mm version 4 windows 7 pro bought from computer store.
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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rovingcowboy wrote:but its not the same hard drive id number on both pc's.

one of them is taking control of the hd.

i know your using an breifcase file hd. i got and 320 gb WD my passport essential, one here too.

monkey gives hd id numbers to each hd. maybe your two monkeys are giving two different id numbers and storing them both on the hd or it could be storing its copy of the mmdb file on the portable making it have two files one for each monkey.

if your sync'ing your hd with home. then when you get to work and it is not seeing it maybe try rescaning of the portable to get it to see the new files. is the only way it will work. unless rusty or ludek or jiri or other smart programmer can get monkey to see the other monkey's id number and database info. :-?
Ok, so what you seem to be saying is that MM must create different HD ID's on different PC's for the same HD? I always thought the HD ID was information unique to the hard drive. That information must get stored somewhere in the registry of each PC then is what I'm guessing or it's storing 2 different IDs for the same HD in the same MMDB file. I know I downloaded a script that allows you to change HD ID's.....I'll see if running that script can show me what the IDs are for each PC for that same HD to verify if they're different and check if the script will allow me to change the ID so they're the same on both PCs.

If that doesn't work, then I think I'll go into MM's preference settings which I saw, which allows you to add specific folders to be automatically scanned for changes. That way it will just do an autoscan upon start up and update the library which should make them the same.

I'm still unsure how this going to work for my Playlists, because this is where things got screwed up for me last time in that I created Playlists on one PC in MM and those Playlists didn't show up on the other PC's library view.
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

Post by The Owld Fecker »

I'm not a "techy" nor have I ever attempted to use MM with more than one PC/Laptop.

However, I would have thought that if you just backed up the MM database (it only takes seconds) on a daily basis, on each drive (using the most recent info'), then that could solve your problem.

Just a thought!
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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The Owld Fecker wrote:I'm not a "techy" nor have I ever attempted to use MM with more than one PC/Laptop.

However, I would have thought that if you just backed up the MM database (it only takes seconds) on a daily basis, on each drive (using the most recent info'), then that could solve your problem.

Just a thought!
There's only one database file and there's only one hard drive being used by 2 different PC's....at separate times. So I'm unsure what you are saying as far as backing up the MM database? More instructions of this database backup process you're talking about? The MM.DB file (ie database file) is located on my portable hard drive. The portable hard drive is moved between the 2 different PCs.
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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rovingcowboy wrote:but its not the same hard drive id number on both pc's.

one of them is taking control of the hd.

i know your using an breifcase file hd. i got and 320 gb WD my passport essential, one here too.

monkey gives hd id numbers to each hd. maybe your two monkeys are giving two different id numbers and storing them both on the hd or it could be storing its copy of the mmdb file on the portable making it have two files one for each monkey.

if your sync'ing your hd with home. then when you get to work and it is not seeing it maybe try rescaning of the portable to get it to see the new files. is the only way it will work. unless rusty or ludek or jiri or other smart programmer can get monkey to see the other monkey's id number and database info. :-?
Well, today I opened the MM.DB file on my work PC and was expecting to see 2 separate entries for my external portable HDD if MM had created separate ID's for it on the different PCs, but only one is showing up in the database. I'm not seeing anything strange in here, that would explain why the Library view would be different between my home PC and my work PC.

This shows the 2 devices that I use with MM on both PCs. One is my iPod and the other is my external Hard drive. My normal work flow is that I add/edit media on the Portable HDD, then I sync that Media and/or changes to my iPod.
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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now your getting in to the strangeness of it all.

if it is not dual hd id numbers there is something really messing with you on the portable i wonder if the hard drive is being shown as the same driver letter or if it is changed, could that drive letter being different also be a form of hd id number?

as others have said dual librarys even one used on dual computers is a major pain in the but i do think you should check with bex on the id number idea, and maybe lowlander with the networking, there are others that do networking but i don't remember their names. :(
roving cowboy / keith hall. My skins http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =9&t=16724 for some help check on Monkey's helpful messages at http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 4008#44008 MY SYSTEMS.1.Jukebox WinXp pro sp 3 version 3.5 gigabyte mb. 281 GHz amd athlon x2 240 built by me.) 2.WinXP pro sp3, vers 2.5.5 and vers 3.5 backup storage, shuttle 32a mb,734 MHz amd athlon put together by me.) 3.Dell demension, winxp pro sp3, mm3.5 spare jukebox.) 4.WinXp pro sp3, vers 3.5, dad's computer bought from computer store. )5. Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Android ) 6. amd a8-5600 apu 3.60ghz mm version 4 windows 7 pro bought from computer store.
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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rovingcowboy wrote:now your getting in to the strangeness of it all.

if it is not dual hd id numbers there is something really messing with you on the portable i wonder if the hard drive is being shown as the same driver letter or if it is changed, could that drive letter being different also be a form of hd id number?

as others have said dual librarys even one used on dual computers is a major pain in the but i do think you should check with bex on the id number idea, and maybe lowlander with the networking, there are others that do networking but i don't remember their names. :(
The drive letter of the external drive is the same on both PC's....That was one of the 1st things I did before even installing MM. I assigned the external drive to be letter T: on both PCs.

I did a test yesterday and created a new playlist in MM on my work PC. I brought the external drive home, plugged it into my home PC and fired up MM on my home PC....the new playlist did not show in MM....and there's no way to do an "Add/Rescan" for playlists like I am doing for my Media file changes.

Lowlander is the one who sent me off reading a bunch of tutorials when I originally asked this question on how to properly set this up 7 months ago. Here was my 1st post ever in this forum.
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=40615
I think I need someone who knows exactly how media monkey retrieves and stores the library information....not "thinks" they know....but actually knows.

Here's another discussion on the same topic with no results:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=43909

7 months later, bunch of reading of tutorials, lots of pulling my hair out, lots of wasted work down the drain....and here I am back where I started.
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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I did all that before....don't be trying to send me on that path again. Have you done this and verified it works? Have you verified that the Library views are the same between both PCs? Have you verified that Playlists are consistent between the different PCs? If not....pizz off!!! That's where I started 7 months ago :)

Here's a link for ya:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=40615
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

Post by rovingcowboy »

Rednroll wrote:
I did all that before....don't be trying to send me on that path again. Have you done this and verified it works? Have you verified that the Library views are the same between both PCs? Have you verified that Playlists are consistent between the different PCs? If not....pizz off!!! That's where I started 7 months ago :)

Here's a link for ya:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=40615
now don't get too upset its not been a wasted 7 months. cause now you know how not to do it. :D

this is just not right it should work as you said but some reason there is a locked door. its just finding that
door's key and unlocking it. and teknojnky is a helper in code checking for monkey so he was just trying to help.

here in the forums not everybody gets in proper all the time some times we get in and the fourm kicks us out which then changes the new posts to old posts and we miss all the new ones so he could have missed some of your posts.

so the drive letter and the drive id are the same monkey is on the portable, but when installed there he set up his mmdb on the computer he was installed from.
so you now have both computers using the same mmdb file.
maybe its not the issue of monkey making a drive id for the location of the music, but one for the location of where he was installed from.
making that computer's hd be the one he knows to use.
this would be causing you the grief as monkey is then believing he is on his computer when on the portable, so the computers become the portable drives to him.

that is the only reasoning i can find that monkey would mess up and not read one of the mmdb files..

that might not be the reason but it is far out in left feild and just might be the cause of it. stranger things have happened on these computers.

:o


wait a minute the songs are on the portable and the monkey is on both computers. sorry.

well then along the same line of thinking can you put monkey on the portable and then rescan the portable with him on the portable, then save the mmdb file in monkeys folder for him on the portable,, i don't know if that is what the other posts told you or not i did not read them. so don't get mad at me if it is what they told you to do, i just thought of that with out reading it.
cause i'm trying to think of how to fix it not reading how to fix it. :)
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

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Rednroll wrote:
I did all that before....don't be trying to send me on that path again. Have you done this and verified it works? Have you verified that the Library views are the same between both PCs? Have you verified that Playlists are consistent between the different PCs? If not....pizz off!!! That's where I started 7 months ago :)

Here's a link for ya:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=40615

Hi,

Yes, I use this every day. (and I wrote most of the wiki article)

I have a single 2tb (wd dual drive) external firewire/usb drive, with a single mediamonkey installed it, with a single library database, and single media folder from which all media is stored. I use this setup on 3+ computers that run anything from xp to vista to win7.

From my skimming of the thread, It sounds like you have 2 separate databases, because if you were using a single database, all updates would be seen on both/all computers.

If you re-read the wiki article, there are 2 points to understand:

shared settings (mediamonkey.ini in same place as mediamonkey.exe)
shared library database (mm.db specified in the mediamonkey.ini)

if you have any mm.db or mediamonkey ini in your user profile (ie documents & settings\username or users\username), they take precedence over mediamonkey.ini stored with mediamonkey.exe.
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

Post by Rednroll »

Teknojnky wrote:
Rednroll wrote:
I did all that before....don't be trying to send me on that path again. Have you done this and verified it works? Have you verified that the Library views are the same between both PCs? Have you verified that Playlists are consistent between the different PCs? If not....pizz off!!! That's where I started 7 months ago :)

Here's a link for ya:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=40615

Hi,

Yes, I use this every day. (and I wrote most of the wiki article)

I have a single 2tb (wd dual drive) external firewire/usb drive, with a single mediamonkey installed it, with a single library database, and single media folder from which all media is stored. I use this setup on 3+ computers that run anything from xp to vista to win7.

From my skimming of the thread, It sounds like you have 2 separate databases, because if you were using a single database, all updates would be seen on both/all computers.

If you re-read the wiki article, there are 2 points to understand:

shared settings (mediamonkey.ini in same place as mediamonkey.exe)
shared library database (mm.db specified in the mediamonkey.ini)

if you have any mm.db or mediamonkey ini in your user profile (ie documents & settings\username or users\username), they take precedence over mediamonkey.ini stored with mediamonkey.exe.
Thanks, I'm going to go through the tutorial one more time and see if there is anything I may have missed. Off the top of my head, I know with 100% confidence that there is only one Mediamonkey.ini file and it is currently in the same folder as Mediamonkey.exe. I got burned by that the 1st time I tried to get this to work, and I've done an entire scan of both PCs for the MediaMonkey.ini file using the Windows Search File Function. Only one was present, which is the one on the external HDD located at T:\MediaMonkey\MediaMonkey.ini...the same location MediaMonkey.exe is located.

I also did that same process for the database file, doing a search on "MM.DB" and there is only 1 instance of that file also.

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M3UForLocations=0
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[Device]
Name=
Letter=45
CopyTo=\%A - %L\%S
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F_FLAC_CODEC.DLL_flac_Data=
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[CDCacheSettings]
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AddToLibAfterConvert=0
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WAVSampleRate=0
WAVMode=2
F_FLAC_CODEC.DLL_flac_Data=
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[Main]
FontSizeMultiplier=1
FontSize=0%

[FloatPlayer]
PosX=0
PosY=0
Width=1280
Height=692

[InfoPopUp]
ShowTime=4000
Transperency=0
Horizontal=100
Vertical=100

[Scripts]
LastExportExcelDir=C:\Documents and Settings\Flavia\Desktop\Dance Check2.xls
LastExportM3UsDir=J:\Music\Playlists\

[CustomReport]
Delim1=¬
Delim2=¬,¬
Delim3=¬
Source=0
Format=2
Unicode=0
Filename=C:\Documents and Settings\Flavia\Desktop\Dance Check5.xls
Column1=1:|:3:|:Artist:|:
Column2=2:|:41:|:Song Title:|:H...
Column3=3:|:2:|:Album:|:
Column4=4:|:54:|:Track:|:
Column5=5:|:44:|:Year:|:
Columns=5
Column6=6:|:61:|::|:

[Appearance]
Language=en
ShowNumberedColInSongView=1
ShowTracksInLibraryNode=1
ShowTrayIcon=1
MinimizeToTray=0
CloseToTray=0
MouseGestures=1
ShowToolTips=1
ShowTrackToolTip=1
ShowTrackToolTipAll=0
PlayerSkinNameNew3=Glided.msz
ShowNewTrackInfo=1
PlayerPosition=3
PlayerSticky=0
PlayerVisible=1
AnimatedTreeToggle=0
NowPlayingDockable=1
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ShowPlstTitle=1
ShowCoversTitle=1
ShowBrowserTitle=1
ShowNowPlayingControls=1
ShowNowPlayingControlsMini=1
ShowPlayControls=0
ShowPlayControlsMini=0
NowPlayingOnTop=1
MultiStringSeparator="; "

[MonkeyFlow]
ShowCaption=-1

[LastTreePathPartsList]
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3F=
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[SongMasks]
Mask1=%A-%L\%2T - %S
Mask2=%A-%L\%2T-%S
Mask3=%A-%L\%2T %S
Mask4=%A-%L\%2T%S
Mask5=%A-%L\%A - Track%X %2T
Mask6=%A-%L\%S - %2T
Mask7=%A-%L\Track%2T
Mask8=%A-%L\Track%X %2T
Mask9=%A-%L\%2T
Mask10=#%T - %A - %S
Mask11=#%T %A - %S
Mask12=(%A) -%L -%T- %S
Mask13=(%A)-%L-%T-%S
Mask14=%A - %L-%T-%S
Mask15=%A-%L-%T-%S
Mask16=%T-(%A) -%L - %S
Mask17=%T-(%A)-%L - %S
Mask18=%T-%A - %L - %S
Mask19=%T-(%A) -%S
Mask20=%T-(%A)-%S
Mask21=%T-%A - %S
Mask22=%T %A - %S
Mask23=%T-%A-%S
Mask24=%T %A-%S
Mask25=%T-%S
Mask26=%X0's -%A-%S
Mask27=%X0's %A-%S
Mask28=%X0's-%A-%S
Mask29=%X0's%S
Mask30=[%A] -%S
Mask31=[%A]-%S
Mask32=[%A]%S
Mask33=(%A) -%S
Mask34=(%A)-%S
Mask35=(%A)%S
Mask36=Track%2T
Mask37=Track%X %2T
Mask38=%A-%L\%A - %S
Mask39=%A ~ %S
Mask40=%A - Track%X %2T
Mask41=%A-%T-%S
Mask42=%S - %2T
Mask43=%A - %L - %S
Mask44=%A\%Y %L\%T - %S
Mask45=%A\%Y %L\%T-%S
Mask46=%A\%Y %L\%T %S
Mask47=%A\%Y %L\%3T%A - %S
Mask48=%A\%Y %L\%3T%A-%S
Mask49=%A\%Y %L\%3T%S
Mask50=%A\%Y %L\%2T%A - %S
Mask51=%A\%Y %L\%2T%A-%S
Mask52=%A\%Y %L\%2T%S
Mask53=%A\%Y %L\%S - %2T
Mask54=%A\%Y %L\%A - %S
Mask55=%A\%Y %L\Track%2T
Mask56=%A\%Y %L\Track%X %2T
Mask57=%A\%Y %L\%2T
Mask58=%A\%L\%T - %S
Mask59=%A\%L\%T-%S
Mask60=%A\%L\%T %S
Mask61=%A\%L\%3T%A - %S
Mask62=%A\%L\%3T%A-%S
Mask63=%A\%L\%3T%S
Mask64=%A\%L\%2T%A - %S
Mask65=%A\%L\%2T%A-%S
Mask66=%A\%L\%2T%S
Mask67=%A\%L\%S - %2T
Mask68=%A\%L\%A - %S
Mask69=%A\%L\Track%2T
Mask70=%A\%L\Track%X %2T
Mask71=%A\%L\%2T
Mask72=%A\%T - %S
Mask73=%A\%T-%S
Mask74=%A\%T %S
Mask75=%A\%3T%S
Mask76=%A\%2T%S
Mask77=%A\%S - %2T
Mask78=%A\Track%2T
Mask79=%A\Track%X %2T
Mask80=%A\%2T
Mask81=%A - %S
Mask82=%A--%S
Mask83=%A-%S
Mask84=%S(%A)
Mask85=%S

[PlaylistMasks]
Mask1=%A - %L
Mask2=%A-%L
Mask3=%L

[EncodeMasks]
Mask1=J:\Music\2K Rock\Nickelback\Dark Horse\%A - %S
Mask2=J:\Music\90s Rock\Black Crows\%A - %S
Mask3=.\%A - %S
Mask4=.\%R\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask5=.\%R - %L\%2T %A - %S
Mask6=.\%A - %L - %2T - %S
Mask7=.\%G\%Y\%A - %S
Mask8=.\%2T %S

[SendToMasks]
Mask1=%A - %S
Mask2=%F

[FileMasks]
Mask1=.\%A - %S
Mask2=.\%R\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask3=.\%R - %L\%2T %A - %S
Mask4=.\%A - %L - %2T - %S
Mask5=.\%G\%Y\%A - %S
Mask6=.\%2T %S

[BurnMasks]
Mask1=\Music\%A-%S
Mask2=\%D %A-%S
Mask3=\Music\%R\%L\%2T %A-%S
Mask4=\Music\%R-%L\%2T %A-%S
Mask5=\Music\%A-%L-%2T-%S
Mask6=\Music\%G\%Y\%A-%S

[AAMasks]
Mask1=folder
Mask2=%L

[BurnPlaylistMasks]
Mask1=\Music\Playlists\%Q\%D-%S
Mask2=\Music\Playlists\%Q\%D-%A-%S

[PodcastMasks]
Mask1=F:\Documents and Settings\Flavia\My Documents\My Music\Podcasts\%A-%S

[RipMasks]
Mask1=T:\Music\80s Rock\Slaughter\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask2=T:\Music\80s Rock\Firehouse\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask3=T:\Music\80s Rock\Tora Tora\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask4=T:\Music\80s Rock\Tesla\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask5=T:\Music\80s Rock\Extreme\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask6=T:\Music\80s Rock\Cinderella\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask7=T:\Music\80s Rock\Bullet Boys\%R\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask8=K:\Music\Industrial\Rammstein\Herzeleid\%R\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask9=%R\%L\%2T %A - %S
Mask10=%A - %S
Mask11=%R - %L\%2T %A - %S
Mask12=%A - %L - %2T - %S
Mask13=%G\%Y\%A - %S

[AutoTagMasks]
Mask1=%A-%S
Mask2=%A-%L\%T-%S
Mask3=%R-%L\%T %A-%S
Mask4=%A\%L-%T-%S
Mask5=%A\%L\%T-%S
Mask6=%A-%L-%T-%S
Mask7=%2T%S

[CacheMasks]
Mask1=%R\%L\%A - %S
Mask2=%A - %S
Mask3=%R - %L\%2T %A - %S
Mask4=%A - %L - %2T - %S
Mask5=%G\%Y\%A - %S

[PreviewMasks]
Mask1=%R\%L\%A - %S(pvw)
Mask2=%A - %S(pvw)
Mask3=%R - %L\%2T %A - %S(pvw)
Mask4=%A - %L - %2T - %S(pvw)
Mask5=%G\%Y\%A - %S(pvw)

[PortCopyTracksMasks]
Item1=%A - %S
Item2=\Music\%R\%L\%T %S
Item3=\%A-%S
Item4=\%A\%A-%S
Item5=\%R\%L\%2T %S
Item6=\%G\%A-%S

[PortCopyM3UMasks]
Item1=\Playlists\
Item2=\

[BurnM3UMasks]
Mask1=\Playlists\
Mask2=\

[BurnAlbArtMasks]
Mask1=\Album Art\
Mask2=\

[Auto-organize]
ExcludeFolders=
DoInBackground=0
DeleteEmptiedFolders=0
Last edited by Rednroll on Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:46 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Rednroll
Posts: 320
Joined: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:11 pm

Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

Post by Rednroll »

rovingcowboy wrote: wait a minute the songs are on the portable and the monkey is on both computers. sorry.
No....Here is exactly how I set it up which was posted in my 1st post when someone else was asking how to do this.
Rednroll wrote:Ya know, I've been trying to figure this out for the longest times. I have read all the documentation tutorials and then I always seem to run into some kind of gotcha where something doesn't make sense. The last time I thought I had this all figured out, all of a sudden my playlists would show up on one PC and then not the other one. Then they magically disappeared on both.

I decided to start over and here's what I did. First off, If you already have MM installed on one of your PCs, my advice would be to uninstall it and delete anything left over. Do a file search on MediaMonkey.ini and make sure it's not hanging around in your "My Documents" or "Users" folders.

Then do the following. I'll refer to them as PC1 and PC2. I'll refer to your external drive with your media as "Drive T:"
Assign External Drive Letter on PC1:
1. Plug in your external Drive on PC1.
2. Goto CONTROL PANEL>Administrative Tools>Computer Management, Then Click on "Disk Management", and Click on the External Drive.
3. Goto ACTIONS>ALL TASKS>Change Drive Letters and Paths, then click the "Change" button. Change the Drive letter to "T:". This will make sure that every time you plug in the external drive it will be assigned the same drive letter, and hopefully will be out of range of all other drives so they don't claim that drive letter.

Install MediaMonkey on PC1
1. Choose to install to a specific location and install it to the external Drive "T:/MediaMonkey"
2. Choose to not scan your computer for media files during the install process.
3. Register MediaMonkey
4. Find the file "MediaMonkey.ini", it should be located in T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey directory.
5. Move that file to T:\MediaMonkey

Edit MediaMonkey.ini file
1. Open the "MediaMonkey.ini" file in NotePad or Wordpad.
2. Find the location that says [System]
3. Change TempDir, CacheDir, PreviewDir so that they're assigned to Drive T:
Should look like below:
TempDir=T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey\Temp\
CacheDir=T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey\VirtualCD\
PreviewDir=T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey\Previews\

4. Add the following line below "PreviewDir", so MediaMonkey looks here for it's Database file.
DBName=T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey\MM.DB
5. Save the MediaMonkey.ini file.

Change MediaMonkey internal preference settings.
1. Start MediaMonkey
2. Goto TOOLS>OPTIONS
3. Click on "Virtual CD & Preview"
4. In the Virtual CD Directory change to:
T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey\VirtualCD\
5. In the "Previews" Directory box, change to:
T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey\Previews\
6. Click "OK" to apply changes.

Setup PC2
Assign External Drive Letter on PC2:
1. Plug in your external Drive on PC2.
2. Goto CONTROL PANEL>Administrative Tools>Computer Management, Then Click on "Disk Management", and Click on the External Drive.
3. Goto ACTIONS>ALL TASKS>Change Drive Letters and Paths, then click the "Change" button. Change the Drive letter to "T:".

Install MediaMonkey on PC2
1. Choose to install to a specific location and install it to the external Drive "T:/MediaMonkey"
*Note: Be careful, MediaMonkey automatically enters a directory path of "MediaMonkey" for you. You should just click on the T: drive and make sure it's installing to the exact same directory of "T:/MediaMonkey", where you installed it on PC1.
2. Choose to not scan your computer for media files during the install process.
3. Register MediaMonkey
4. Make sure an additional MediaMonkey.ini file did not get created in the install process.
5. Goto T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey directory and if there is an additional MediaMonkey.ini file there.....then delete it. This will ensure MediaMonkey uses the MediaMonkey.ini that should still be located in the T:\MediaMonkey folder.

Scan for MediaFiles to put into the MediaMonkey Library
1. Start Media Monkey
2. Goto the Tree View and click on "My Computer".
3. Browse to your external Drive where your media files are located.
4. Right Click on the Drive and select "Add/Rescan Tracks to Library"
5. Select All the folders on your external drive you want MediaMonkey to scan for media files by checking them"
6. Select "OK". Media Monkey will now scan those specific folders and add all the media files to the MediaMonkey Database.

You should be able to move the external drive to both PCs and run Media Monkey on either PC and everything "should" be the same now. This is what I finally did and it has worked out much better than all the other use SQL Lite, edit the MM.DB file...etc...etc. stuff. After the 3rd time of messing around and pulling my hair out....this is what I finally came up with and so far....so good.....fingers crossed. :D

Once you get all that done.....then run MediaMonkey and go to work with the AutoTag feature by selecting songs and hitting "CNTRL+L". I find AMAZON Canada works the best when using the auto tag feature. At least it did for my music library.
Rednroll
Posts: 320
Joined: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:11 pm

Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

Post by Rednroll »

So if you read all of what I described above, there is ONE MediaMonkey.exe file which got installed to the external drive to the same location on both PCs, that gets executed on both PCs. There is ONE MM.DB file on the external HDD which "should" get looked at by both PCs where the location is defined in the ONE MediaMonkey.ini file.

Also on that same external drive is my entire music library located in.
T:\\Music

My external HDD is assigned as drive letter T: on both PCs.
INI and EXE locations
T:\MediaMonkey\MediaMonkey.exe
T:\MediaMonkey\MediaMonkey.ini

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MM MM.DB database Location

T:\MediaMonkey\All Users\Application Data\MediaMonkey\MM.DB
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Media File Location

T:\Music
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Last edited by Rednroll on Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Teknojnky
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Re: A few questions from a new MM FAN and customer

Post by Teknojnky »

I agree with you, that it 'should' be exactly like that and work like that.

and fyi, you do not need to 'install' mediamonkey on each pc separately if you have it installed to the external drive.

You simply run it directly from your external drive (make your own desktop or start menu shortcut to mediamonkey.ini).

You may have to change your windows explorer or search setting to search for hidden files, but I still bet you have an extra mm db file somewhere on one of your computers.

My setup is exactly as yours is except I am using J:\Program Files\Mediamonkey and has worked since I started using MM 2 back in 2003 or 04.
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